Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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I just wandered over to the PC website, bought the family a membership, made a donation, and placed an order for a lawn sign.

The Liberals need to be put to pasture.

I’ve got almost 13 years as a Police Officer so far. I’ve taken guns off of bad guys. I’ve seen people shot more times then I care to remember.

This proposed legislation is nothing more then pandering to people who know nothing about gun crime, it wouldn’t have made a bit of difference in any of the crime I’ve seen.

The Liberals know these facts too. Their motives are disingenuous and have nothing to do with fighting violent crime and everything to do with deceiving the gullible public. All this comes at the cost of leaving good people, law abiding people, to swing in the wind.

Also, I will not participate in the theft of other people’s, GOOD PEOPLES, privately owned property. Not after I’ve worked so hard to protect those same people, and their property, for so much of my career.

Trudeau is a cheat, and a lier.

It is nice to hear such thoughts from principled LEOs like yourself. I hope a lot of your fellow officers think like you.
 
I just wandered over to the PC website, bought the family a membership, made a donation, and placed an order for a lawn sign.

The Liberals need to be put to pasture.

I’ve got almost 13 years as a Police Officer so far. I’ve taken guns off of bad guys. I’ve seen people shot more times then I care to remember.

This proposed legislation is nothing more then pandering to people who know nothing about gun crime, it wouldn’t have made a bit of difference in any of the crime I’ve seen.

The Liberals know these facts too. Their motives are disingenuous and have nothing to do with fighting violent crime and everything to do with deceiving the gullible public. All this comes at the cost of leaving good people, law abiding people, to swing in the wind.

Also, I will not participate in the theft of other people’s, GOOD PEOPLES, privately owned property. Not after I’ve worked so hard to protect those same people, and their property, for so much of my career.

Trudeau is a cheat, and a lier.

If the gov has all this extra cash to buy/steal our guns it must mean that they have fully funded everything that we know already works. Every after school program has said “no we don’t need more money” every boys and girls club has a full bank account. Every single mom thats struggling with addiction has more support than she needs. That must be why they want to spend hundreds of millions to steal our law abiding guns.
 
LETS WORK TOGETHER ON SAVING/KEEPING OUR FIREARMS.

I will try to put this in a very simple language to understand it clearly:
- only Liberals and CPC will have major amount of votes and so - only either of these 2 parties can win next months election
- all remaining „smaller” Parties do not have enough votes to win, so they cannot win because they cannot compete with the above 2 „big” parties (Liberals and CPC)
- this means - if we want to keep our firearms, we must vote CPC only - to get rid of manipulative liberals
- anybody who will vote on any of those „smaller” parties will only WASTE his/ her vote. So - give that vote to CPC instead. Do not waste it.

OR:
We ALL will loose ALL our firearms, without any exception.
 
It is nice to hear such thoughts from principled LEOs like yourself. I hope a lot of your fellow officers think like you.

The Association of the Chiefs of Police share the opinion that this will do nothing to stop gun crime.

Then again what would us dumb cops know about gun crime compared to our crown prince?

I bet Trudeau has seen some frightening violent street crime in his highly privileged time on earth.
 
Thuis is exactly the kind of extremely partisan thinking that has reared it's ugly head in politics on both the left and the right. if you aren't with us you are the enemy. That's healthy and a productive attitude that will lead to compromises or rational discussions around issues.


It's partisan to advise everyone to NOT vote for the party that has declared it will ban and confiscate semi-automatics???
Give your head a shake!

If you are voting Liberal, you are voting for gun confiscation and betraying gun enthusiasts.

THat is the ONLY issue here!

The CPC is the ONLY party that has a rational chance to stop the Liberals and their gun grabbing schemes
 
It is very curious that some of those that are claiming to vote for Bernier and the PPC , and hoping to divide the vote against the CPC , are members who have only joined CGN over the last few months ; very curious indeed with 2019 being a federal election year.....lol
 
It is very curious that some of those that are claiming to vote for Bernier and the PPC , and hoping to divide the vote against the CPC , are members who have only joined CGN over the last few months ; very curious indeed with 2019 being a federal election year.....lol

after we lost the election in 2015 there were people posting on here, as well as FB groups dedicated to Canadian gun culture, things like "HAHA TAKE THAT YOU F****** CONS, HAVE FUN LOSING YOUR GUNS".

there was so much vitriol that the mods couldn't pink everyone so they just closed down threads, banned instigators and waited for it to settle down. i bet this time around will be the same if we lose, suddenly a lot of these johnny come latelys advocating for splitting the vote will reveal their true intentions, get pinked and disappear
 
It is very curious that some of those that are claiming to vote for Bernier and the PPC , and hoping to divide the vote against the CPC , are members who have only joined CGN over the last few months ; very curious indeed with 2019 being a federal election year.....lol


I'd say that you should expect some new voices over the last few months, since that's when the news broke that JT and his party were doing this. Now that's it's confirmed, I'm here. I suspect that there's a whole lot of people like me, too, who only took notice to politics and such when their guns were threatened.

also: I would vote PPC if there were a PPC candidate in my riding and if this election weren't so important, but it is, so no.
 
Oh man! You guys are hilarious. Sure, if the government came after you with their jets and helicopters and armoured personel carriers and bombs and missles and mortars and rifles with greater than 5 or 10 round capacities, you think you can resist with any firearms you can legally own, even at this point? I guess you must be enjoying Canada's legalized cannabis. That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Straight out of the NRA's joke of a playbook.

I am pretty sure the Taliban would like to disagree with you on this. They started with old bolt action rifles. They ended up controlling a country. I would also point you to ISIS, Al Queda and other terrorist groups that have resisted with limited firepower at the start and end up control large areas of a country. If the US military and NATO cannot control a small country like Afghanistan then how can our extremely small military and police hope to control a really big one. It is not about the tool but the heart of the man who matters in this.
 
I am pretty sure the Taliban would like to disagree with you on this. They started with old bolt action rifles. They ended up controlling a country. I would also point you to ISIS, Al Queda and other terrorist groups that have resisted with limited firepower at the start and end up control large areas of a country. If the US military and NATO cannot control a small country like Afghanistan then how can our extremely small military and police hope to control a really big one. It is not about the tool but the heart of the man who matters in this.


Excellent post ,
 
I am pretty sure the Taliban would like to disagree with you on this. They started with old bolt action rifles. They ended up controlling a country. I would also point you to ISIS, Al Queda and other terrorist groups that have resisted with limited firepower at the start and end up control large areas of a country. If the US military and NATO cannot control a small country like Afghanistan then how can our extremely small military and police hope to control a really big one. It is not about the tool but the heart of the man who matters in this.

While your point is well taken- you have to understand, the Americans armed the Taliban against the Russians with everything including stinger missiles. All of which ended up being turned against them (and Canadians and Nato countries) later, with additional arms from places like Iran and elsewhere.

I have no doubt that if Nicolae Trudescu gets back in, owners won't stand a chance. there will be no resistance, you will either hand over your registered firearms and accept their judgement of its value
(it's worth X, now f -off, Neexxt)
or if not, police with ERT escort will come into your house and take them, and maybe do a little not so polite search for other "weapons" which they will confiscate as you are a criminal for not turning over the original gun(s)..and you will face charges.

This is it folks, the beginning of the end. Today" military style" , next handguns, next semi shotguns, next everything. If you own a gun..you have become a pariah to society and the "threat" will be removed.

The Libs want us as their scapegoat, always have. The Dips, Greens, Bloc are right behind them all the way, although that's more because they're too stupid to look at facts and have swallowed the propaganda kool aid but majority or minority they will 100% support the Lieberals against us.

WE have ONE SINGLE CHOICE- Conservative, Right now, MAX is Nic Trudescu's best friend, his ACE in the election. Max is trudescu's best hope for a win..

Don't fall for it. We MUST vote Conservative this time, because by next time, it probably will be far too late, and won't matter at all anymore.
 
“This is exactly the kind of extremely partisan thinking that has reared it's ugly head in politics on both the left and the right. if you aren't with us you are the enemy. That's healthy and a productive attitude that will lead to compromises or rational discussions around issues.”

While I used to think this way myself years ago, this is now the third large scale firearms laws revision for me since coming into recreational shooting in the late 80’s. I used to think that reasonable people on both sides of this issue could work in principles such as “compromise”

I saw C17 (?) in the 90’s add military style semis to the restricted list, then the Liberal party of Jean Chretien later required that everything be registered. Now low and behold the same firearms previously made restricted in the name of safety may well be prohibited if the LPC wins federally. All along the way some said don’t give an inch, it’s the beginning of what will ultimately be confiscation. They were derided as “paranoid” by others. I thought each time, “maybe this is it, and these latest concessions will appease those pushing for gun control” i was foolish in the extreme

What I have come to believe is that some in the gun control camp see the long game, to slowly and inexorably chip away at firearms ownership over time. Some others may be legitimately satisfied with each successive round of legislation, but they fall away leaving the long game folks.

I fail to see what compromise, which thus far more closely resembles acquiescence on the part of the Canadian firearms community has brought us for benefit. But then again I don’t know what your vision of compromise entails. It must surely be different from mine.

In the meantime, against the backdrop of the relentless march of successive federal Liberal governments enacting successive gun control schemes, I have continued to comply. Yep that’s some help that “rational discussion and compromise” has been so far.
 
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