Trying to decide between Aimpoint and Eotech

Dietz said:
What's shocking is that after his replies people are still saying EOTechs are just as good... Proves something he wrote here a while back, on the internet ignorant people make up 1000 against 1.
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Yah i wont argue he knows his stuff, just with my bad eyes i find i shoot in a more relaxed fashion with my eos rather than my aimpoint. I was shooting my cz858 on friday with my aimpoint and after 30 minutes i was exhausted.

But i do buy both right, so i guess im on the fence with that one.

So I'm not going to deny that M. Vickers knows his stuff, and frankly he is a God when it comes to this, just my personal preference seems to be eo, my personal preference might differ from everyone else but thats the only thing to what i can speak to, my personal experience with both products.

I don't agree with him calling people ignorant though, i've used both for about a year, I'm not speaking out of my ass here.
 
A couple of points for this topic. Which is better depends on use.

If shooting a 14.5" or shorter barreled carbine then I'd go aimpoint. If I were looking for a so called "gunfighter" setup the T1 hands down. Size, weight, battery life, ruggedness and simplicity.

That being said I don't favour that style and generally go 16" carbines which are more utilitarian. For that style I prefer the Eotech. The rifle is a compromise. It's not a shorty or a target rifle. The Eotech suits this style better.

Same with stocks. For shorter faster carbines I like the Magpul CTR stock. But for 16" more Recon/Reece style rifles I prefer an A frame stock such as the LMT/B5 or Magpul STR. For a precision AR I like the A2 and PRS stocks.

Let's also look at the Canadian reality. We have 5 round mags, some 10 rounders and a few 14-15 round mags. Ammo costs are almost twice that of the US, we can't have full auto, and the AR is restricted to range only use. Most ranges don't allow fast firing and many don't even allow human shaped targets. If I lived in the States I suspect I would have more aimpoints than Eotech. But for my rifle preference and the type of shooting I do here that 1 moa dot with 65moa outer circle has advantages too.

What type of shooting and what style of rifle should dictate which is the better option for you.

It's hard to disagree with Larry Vickers and frankly I wouldn't even consider it if you're planning on shooting the style and way he does. But most of us frankly don't especially in this country.

Some things to consider that have only been brushed upon on this discussion.
 
scrapped all of my eotechs, everything from the "AA" model, the "N" cell and lastly the 553 "cr123a" model... all of them eventually had issues mostly to do with the battery compartment.

for me it is the H1 micro going on all my guns now... still have one legacy m4s aimpoint but when money allow I will sell it
 
JeffFromCanada said:
Well you see, it obviously is questionable of which one is better. Not only did the OP ask, but thats why I'm here and hundreds of others have asked as well.

Im in the same boat OP. Ive been told they're both great and wont fail and both are as reliable as the other. The deciding factor is really what you think will look better and imo it's the EOTech for the Tavor and the Aimpoint for the AR
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But they're not equal; Aimpoints are unquestionably better, and anyone that argues that is simply wrong. It's not a Coke vs Pepsi debate. However, if you prefer the features of Eotechs that's fine--I don't have Aimpoints any more myself--but they are not of equivalent quality.
 
Master-G said:
But they're not equal; Aimpoints are unquestionably better, and anyone that argues that is simply wrong. It's not a Coke vs Pepsi debate. However, if you prefer the features of Eotechs that's fine--I don't have Aimpoints any more myself--but they are not of equivalent quality.
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They're both equal. That's what I say so it must be right.
 
I'm glad I'm not a buyer at this store. Unless I missed something, no one asked the OP what kind of shooting he does nor anything about his skills or plans. Will he be shooting exclusively at static targets from a bench or will he be running around shooting in the action games? No one asked him if he had any vision issues as many have discovered too late that holographic sights and astigmatism don't play well together. The sights are probably not equal on any single point. None of us is a Larry Vickers clone either.

Interestingly Larry Vickers got a lot of flack from the common people when he had the nerve to criticise the 1911. Many of the devotees were ready to lynch him or see their shrinks for anti depressants.

Isn't this fun?
 
Hmmm... I guess that settles it! Eotech has no place on this planet. They should just close up shop because there is no reason anyone would, should or could possibly want one.
 
hercster said:
Interestingly Larry Vickers got a lot of flack from the common people when he had the nerve to criticise the 1911. Many of the devotees were ready to lynch him or see their shrinks for anti depressants.
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He was right about that as well. I think it was something like "If you use your pistol like you use your lawn mower get a Glock" .
 
Gunnerlove said:
He was right about that as well. I think it was something like "If you use your pistol like you use your lawn mower get a Glock" .
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Well no i disagree, 1911 are single stack and thus slim, glocks are not slim. Makes a huge difference for female shooters and males with small hands. The difference being hitting what you're aiming at. I don't care how reliable glock is, if you cant shoot what you're aiming at then they're not good for you. These blanket general statements are just dumb...

I for one cant shoot a glock worth a dam, but watch out when I'm on my cz75!

Is the glock crap then, and the cz75 the holy grail? No, I just shoot the cz better.
 
AWOL said:
Hmmm... I guess that settles it! Eotech has no place on this planet. They should just close up shop because there is no reason anyone would, should or could possibly want one.
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The reticle on an eo is great, the larger field of view makes no difference if you're running your reddot right with both eyes open. Aimpoint is smaller, lighter with superior battery life and a vastly superior track record. Hard to argue the facts.

Tdc
 
I've always liked the Eotech reticule. However my only real experience is with Aimpoints. I have the PRO and an H1 Micro, I love them. I think the Micro's are literally the best red dots in existence for their combination of size, weight, battery life, and sheer durability.
 
k so first of all I didn't start this thread for it to be some kind of flame war between aimpoint and eotech fanboys so that kind of nonsense can stop now unless there are others out there that want to make fools of themselves. anyone who wishes to coment in this thread is encouraged to read the original post and either respond to that or give some constructive feedback or concrete data on experiences they have had up until this point in time.

thanks
 
I for one have learned quite a bit.

I have an Aimpoint PRO and 5 Eotechs, BUT, this thread has convinced me to pick up an H1 and give it a try.

IMO they're both good for the type of shooting I do (indoor range) and I'm sure I'll like them both.

Now....to track down a sponsor with one in stock!
 
fellers88 said:
k so first of all I didn't start this thread for it to be some kind of flame war between aimpoint and eotech fanboys so that kind of nonsense can stop now unless there are others out there that want to make fools of themselves. anyone who wishes to coment in this thread is encouraged to read the original post and either respond to that or give some constructive feedback or concrete data on experiences they have had up until this point in time.

thanks
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As far as I can tell from the original post you don't want opinions, just a chance to shoot using the two optics. This doesn't seem like a thread where anyone cares about my opinion or any other than their own, so I won't bother giving it (although a lot of these other guys have a lot of interesting ones, and some of them (at least one anyway) has a ton of experience to back it up). I will offer you a chance to try my PWS Mk112 with an EXPS-2 if we can work it out for the middle of next week at your range in Kelowna. PM me if you want. Just so you're aware I am busy for the next couple days and probably won't respond right away, but the offer stands.
 
I went with an aimpoint pro, I really liked the eotech and probably would have gotten it if it hadn't been for the battery life. Either way you are going to get a solid red dot.
 
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