Turkey Hunting a**hole Shot My Dog !!! ? Updated May 8 By 88 Man

"No we dont run the dogs on NO TRESPASSING property on purpose.Dogs do sometimes chase a deer the wrong way,get by the watchers and go a little too far and on to these areas.Big friggin whoop.
Should have looked into this before you bought the property"

Reading through this thread I can't actually believe what a few of you guys are saying. Some of you guys figure its okay if your dogs "stray" onto private/no trespassing property while chasing animals................thats ludicrous..................do you guys also feel this way about human/hunters.........that if they happen to "stray" onto someone elses land, "big friggin whoop" ? Alberta does't allow the use of dogs for big game hunting, but if it did, and I happened across a dog chasing deer/moose/elk/etc on my land, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot it.............and us westerners are the furthest thing you can find from being a "liberal"...............just my 2 cents.
 
rip said:
Some of you guys figure its okay if your dogs "stray" onto private/no trespassing property while chasing animals................thats ludicrous.
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The locals have known and accepted that this is a fact of hunting with dogs. This is a small two week window that locals are known what to expect.
All was fine up until the influx of cityites to the area who dont care to know the neighbours let alone the ways of the area.It sux when a few want to change whats been common practice here for 100yrs or better.It does not bother the locals.So when in Rome.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoUNSG43HN4
Dont take our love of hunting with dogs away on us out of pettiness.
 
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I understand how the deer hound thing works in Central/Northern Ontario. What I am referring to is Southern Ontario, where these idiots purposely release their dogs on the edge of private property, knowing the dogs will like start a run through the property. And these are wolf/coyote/fox hounds. To top it off, when "said idiots" get to the next concession or two over, they stand just off the road way, again on private property and shoot into the private property if a coyote is coming out.
 
captonion said:
No we dont run the dogs on NO TRESPASSING property on purpose.Dogs do sometimes chase a deer the wrong way,get by the watchers and go a little too far and on to these areas.Big friggin whoop.
Should have looked into this before you bought the property,and brought your big city NDP/LIBERAL ways and bi-laws here to torment the many generation residents already here.WE THANK YOU

Then there are the ones who hunt thier own little piece of propery and benifit from all the hunters around them using dogs but cry foul when a dog runs on the property.If they say that the hound hunters around them dont push deer into thier area they are Liars.

I know of a hunter(relative) who was covicted of shooting two dogs on his propety some time ago during hunting season.I dont think he has guns to this day.Rightfuly so.

And you thebuckhunter are very entertaining in a village idiot kind of way.
Nice to know you can speak/write in dog though.
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Well written. I'm glad I'm entertaining you. Fist off, I'm a conservative dips**t. Second, My property has been in my family for over 100 years! Yes I live in the city (pop. 48,000), hardly the GTA! You're saying that if your dog goes "astray" big whoop? I get lost in the bush and end up hunting on your property by mistake. You gonna say the same thing? Right. My property is MINE, PERIOD. If your dog make a whoop, the fist time I tell you. The second time, I turn the dog in at the pound. The third time....:evil: Say all that you want, but respect other people's property regardless where they're from! (your dog is property isn't it?) Don't respect my wishes about my property, I might just return the favor.

EDIT: If I own the land in a particular area, I am now considered a "local". You don't have to talk or have a beer with me, but I'm still the local. I can vote in that municipality as well. Why the fark should I check with the neighbours for hunting with hounds in the area? It's my land now! I set the rules for that patch. NOT the other locals, their land their rules. If you wanted it, you should have shelled out the cash instead. :D :dancingbanana:

-Jason
 
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This will be my last post on this thread !
The landowner knew the shot was on his property,I knew the 2 6 month old pups were on his property,I had permision to be there,no one else did,I did have a license to run my dogs there on fox or coyotes.I was and still will be 100% legal doing what I was and will be doing there.The idiot that shot my dog was 100 % tresspassing and not allowed on the property.
At 645 am on a sunday morning there's about 0% chance someone other than an elegally tresspassing turkey hunter was on this property.
You guys can take this thread anywhere you want to go but I was totally in the right and not breaking ANY RULES.
88
 
thebuckhunter said:
If your dog make a whoop, the fist time I tell you. The second time, I turn the dog in at the pound. The third time....:evil:
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MY HERO:rolleyes:

thebuckhunter said:
I get lost in the bush and end up hunting on your property by mistake.You gonna say the same thing?
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I sure would.Might even feed you and take you back to where you started out.
Some of us try to get along.Others.Well you know first hand.
 
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" It's my land now! I set the rules for that patch. NOT the other locals, their land their rules. If you wanted it, you should have shelled out the cash instead. "

Here's the bottom line. If you own land, you can decide what is allowed. If you don't own the land, you don't make the rules, regardless of what you feel .

" The locals have known and accepted that this is a fact of hunting with dogs. This is a small two week window that locals are known what to expect."

If I lived there, and owned property in the area, and made it clear to the "locals" my rules regarding my land, you can bet that anyone who chose(sp?) to run thier dogs on my land would be minus a few dogs. Thats just another fact of life!
 
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Well this is an interesting thread.

It's ####ty that your dog got shot 88. I've had lots of dogs, including beagles. Sometimes they got away out beyond my control. I would hope that in those rare cases that they wouldn't be shot.

Sounds like he may have been shot by someone who didn't think he had to respect private property. Likely a local that has hunted on others property for years and thought it OK.

I've never shot a dog other than my own [ for various valid reasons]

I respect the property of others and expect the same.

I'm also so very happy I left Ontario 40 years ago. you guys are way too tense.:D :D
 
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If I lived there, and owned property in the area, and made it clear to the "locals" my rules regarding my land, you can bet that anyone who chose(sp?) to run thier dogs on my land would be minus a few dogs. Thats just another fact of life!
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This thread has gone to a chest beating, knuckle dragging poor excuse for a discussion.:rolleyes:

Shooting a dog on your property without knowing the circumstances behind why the dog is there (even though you may be well within your rights), is extending an invitation for a five knuckle sandwich.

Never forget the circle goes full round in "local areas" and can extend to horses, cattle etc............:cool:
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I think it is time in S. ON where you have to have WRITTEN permission to hunt on someone else's land. No written permission when the MNR asks you HE charges you with trespassing. Yes, we are the only Wildlife Management Unit in ON with this rule for deer season only. Came about because thousands of people came from off island for deer season and ran all over everyone elses property. One of our gun club member had a bad experience in S ON with tresapassers hunting on land he and his son had paid the farmer for exclusive turkey hunting rights to. Now he is a big advocate for written permission for hunters in S. ON.
 
Well - Unfortunately, here in Central Ontario, the MNR has recently announced it will be laying charges against hounds trespassing on private property, during the hunt.
This is due to the tireless efforts of a private individual who got p*ssed off with the neighbouring hunt camps dogs. Not good news!
 
I am from, and hunt in S.W Ontario. I have absolutely no problem with written permission. I do have, and am actively getting written permission from all the land owners with property that I hunt on. The problem I have with this is the lack of "B*lls" from the authorities to do something about any trespassing, as well as the landowners themselves to contact the authorities for any and all violations of the landowners rights!:confused:. The problem isn't with long time hunter's, in my opinion anyways, it is with the influx of new hunters, that see any forested property as "Crown Land", which is virtually non-existent where I tend to do most of my hunting. As far as finding a dog on my property, I would not shoot it, unless it was a threat to my, or my families safety, and would try my best to find it's owners.:D

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the only time i wont shoot a dog in the bush is if it looks to be in good condition and/or has a collar on. if the owners cared about their dog, they would put tags on it so it could be returned if found and they also wouldnt let their dogs run wild. its very easy to tell the difference between a "good" dog and a "bad" dog in the bush so no worries about me shooting your dogs guys;)

dogs belong on your property or when hunting, they should be tagged or be easily identified by a vest, bell, etc to prevent accidental shootings.

cats on the other hand...no questions asked :shotgun: :shotgun: :shotgun: :shotgun:
 
some times i wish..that our biggest problem was someone shooting a bird or two off our property...
but we get the others...they steal anything that is not tied down....they smash the $hit out of every thing..they even set up some booby traps..to try and harm us..:bangHead: :bangHead: :bangHead:
on phoning the cops..you might as well phone them up and say..
a fly just $hit on my head:bangHead: :bangHead:
 
My dog was shot through the stomach with a 177 pellet when I was a kid. He(the dog) escaped from our yard and was going through the alley hitting the garbage cans. The bastard that shot my dog was more than willing to admit he's pulled the trigger and went so far as to suggest he would kill the dog if there was a repeat performance. My dog suffered greatly from the damage to his digestive system and died and couple of years later. Oddly the old bastard began to experience severe property damage almost immeditely after shooting my dog and it continued for many years after. I believe some call that "Carma"?

I guess for those who would consider shooting dogs, you roll the dice as to what kind of fallout you may experience as a result of your decision.
 
"Shooting a dog on your property without knowing the circumstances behind why the dog is there (even though you may be well within your rights), is extending an invitation for a five knuckle sandwich."

Explain this one to me.
 
rip said:
"Shooting a dog on your property without knowing the circumstances behind why the dog is there (even though you may be well within your rights), is extending an invitation for a five knuckle sandwich."

Explain this one to me.
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Well that's pretty simple
You act like an idiot you deserve to get treated like one :rolleyes:

No-one here has proclaimed anybody should run any dogs on any private property but there may be many reasons why a dog may wonder there.

Ever think maybe your daughter may someday leave your gate open then how would you & your daughter feel if your neighbour up & shot it for tresspassing! Or how about if your cow broke a fence & your dog chased after it, I guess it'd OK to up & shoot both tresspassing animals eh?

There's a pretty simple rule in this world I try to go by, it goes like this..
Treat everybody else as you would like to be treated !
 
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