**TYPE 81 7.62X39 SERVICE RIFLE** ~Now on the way~ -Last chance!

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trainman278 said:
Couldn't one just use an AK side rail and mount it on the right side of the gun ? Sure the mount would be "backwards" but that wouldn't even matter as seen above.
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I suppose that'd work, if you found the right mount. Something like this might be usable and you could just flip the rail around to face the new orientation. I'll be too nervous to f*** up my 81 so I'll be standing by until someone figures out a solid solution.

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SKS45 said:
These 7.62 x 39 rifles are not MOA sporting rifles. They are MOM (Minute Of Man) battle rifles.

Here is how I have zeroed my SKS, VZ58 and will do the same with my Type 81:

Spray paint a black 9.84 inch by 13.77 inch square on a torso style cardboard target.

Set the 9.84” by 13.77” target at 100 meters (not yards). 

At 100 meters the type 81 front site post will completely fill the 9.84” wide square. If the from site post is the same width as the square target you will know you are at 100 meters.

Too sight in at a 100 meter zero your rear leaf needs to be set at 300 meters (3). Forget MOA with this platform and think MOM, align the front sight post with the bottom edge of the 9.84” square (the waist or belt line).

You are aiming for the waist (bottom of black square) but your POI should be 9.84” (or 10”) above the waist. Yes, you should be hitting about 10 inches above your POA.

**Important: Now that your zeroed in commie style set your rear leaf to 100 meters and your point POI and POA will be the same at 100 meters.**

If you want to use the battle setting at 100, 200 or 300 meters set the rear leaf all the way back, aim at the belt/waist line and you will be shooting at 9.84 or 10 inches above your POA which is a center mass Minute Of Man hit, that is what this type of rifle was designed to do.

These are MOM battle rifles not MOA sporting rifles.

Hit a 10” by 10” gong at 100 meters and the rifle is doing what it was built for: Center Mass shots (don’t be obsessed with tight little groups / thats what your AR is for).

In battle mode aim at the waist, hit somewhere between the chest and the neck.

Put the front site post on the waist and you will have fast Chinese/Russian style target acquisition with center mass shots (10 inch or so above the waste).

These rifles are machetes not scalpels.

It's that simple
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Ces fusils 7.62 x 39 ne sont pas des fusils de sport MOA. Ce sont des fusils de combat MOM (Minute Of Man).

Voici comment j'ai mis à zéro mon SKS, VZ58 et fera de même avec mon Type 81:

Pulvériser de la peinture noire de 9,84 pouces par 13,77 pouces carrés sur une cible en carton de style torse.

Réglez la cible de 9,84 "par 13,77" à 100 mètres (pas les yards). À 100 mètres, le poteau du site de type 81 remplira complètement le carré de 9,84 "de large. Si le poste du site est de la même largeur que la cible carrée, vous saurez que vous êtes à 100 mètres.

A moins de 100 mètres de zéro, votre vantail arrière doit être réglé à 300 mètres (3). Oubliez MOA avec cette plate-forme et pensez à MOM, alignez le poteau avant avec le bord inférieur du carré de 9,84 "(la taille ou la ligne de ceinture).

Vous visez la taille (le bas du carré noir) mais votre POI devrait être 9.84 "(ou 10") au-dessus de la taille. Oui, vous devriez frapper environ 10 pouces au-dessus de votre POA.

** Important: Maintenant que vous avez mis votre zéro dans le style commie, réglez votre feuille arrière à 100 mètres et votre POI et POA seront les mêmes à 100 mètres. **

Si vous voulez utiliser le paramètre de combat à 100, 200 ou 300 mètres, placez le vantail arrière complètement, visez la ceinture / ceinture et vous tirerez à 9,84 ou 10 pouces au-dessus de votre POA qui est une masse centrale. Du coup de l'homme, c'est ce que ce type de fusil a été conçu pour faire.

Ce sont des fusils de combat MOM et non des fusils de chasse MOA.

Frappez un gong de 10 "par 10" à 100 mètres et le fusil fait ce pour quoi il a été construit: coups de masse de centre (ne soyez pas obsédé par les petits groupes serrés / c'est ce que votre AR est pour).

En mode combat, viser la taille, frapper quelque part entre la poitrine et le cou.

Mettez le poteau du site avant sur la taille et vous obtiendrez l'acquisition rapide de cible de style chinois / russe avec des coups de masse de centre (10 pouces ou plus au-dessus du gaspillage).

Ces fusils sont des machettes et non des scalpels.

C'est si simple
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thank i am taking note!!
 
cheesymacaroni said:
I think I will cancel my preorder and re order the rifle just so I can get it sooner
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LOL.

And that is why people are criticizing TI. I know they have a system and that they believe they are doing what's best, but seriously, it's a HUGE morale killer for guys who ordered months or years ago to watch guys place and order and get a shipping notice 2 days later while they continue to wait.

How hard would it have been to take all the pallets out of the container so both rifle types were accessible, and then just ship to the oldest orders first? Even if it took a couple extra days overall, it would have pissed off fewer customers.

I read these threads and I see some genuinely aggrieved folks.

For the record, I only ordered in July, so what I'm proposing would likely mean I still would not have my rifle yet either way, but I still think it would have been a better approach overall.

Maybe next time.
 
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For your viewing pleasure... Not my best work but I will blame it on the flat light and wearing gloves.

100 yards sitting, shooting off a range bag, no rear rest. -4C, calm using Dominion 123 GR, HP.

The CZ 858 is one of Wolverines and the SKS came from SFRC while waiting for the Type 81 to clear customs. The bolt carrier and bluing for the T81 and SKS appear to have come from the same factory.

The Type 81 is softer shooting than the CZ, more feedback from the bolt cycling with the CZ. Also trigger advantage goes to the T81.

I feel the T81 may be handicapped by the shorter sight radius. But still a joy to shoot.

Thanks TI for bringing these rifles in:)
 
Bulriver said:
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For your viewing pleasure... Not my best work but I will blame it on the flat light and wearing gloves.

100 yards sitting, shooting off a range bag, no rear rest. -4C, calm using Dominion 123 GR, HP.

The CZ 858 is one of Wolverines and the SKS came from SFRC while waiting for the Type 81 to clear customs. The bolt carrier and bluing for the T81 and SKS appear to have come from the same factory.

The Type 81 is softer shooting than the CZ, more feedback from the bolt cycling with the CZ. Also trigger advantage goes to the T81.

I feel the T81 may be handicapped by the shorter sight radius. But still a joy to shoot.

Thanks TI for bringing these rifles in:)
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That is kind of what I thought.. Not much difference between the 3... Shooting one or two rds and calling it a accuarte rifle is fantasy.. Your test is real world
Anyone buying the 81 thinking it is a tack driver is in left field:popCorn:
 
Bulriver said:
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For your viewing pleasure... Not my best work but I will blame it on the flat light and wearing gloves.

100 yards sitting, shooting off a range bag, no rear rest. -4C, calm using Dominion 123 GR, HP.

The CZ 858 is one of Wolverines and the SKS came from SFRC while waiting for the Type 81 to clear customs. The bolt carrier and bluing for the T81 and SKS appear to have come from the same factory.

The Type 81 is softer shooting than the CZ, more feedback from the bolt cycling with the CZ. Also trigger advantage goes to the T81.

I feel the T81 may be handicapped by the shorter sight radius. But still a joy to shoot.

Thanks TI for bringing these rifles in:)
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The CZ stock is made of wood chip material. The long barrel is not visibly pleasing. The Type 81 made of real hard wood and is better looking.
 
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