Update On Ontario Restricted Transfer Times

Imagine the outrage if people's new cars had to sit rusting at dealers and they weren't allowed to take possession of them (let alone use them) for 5 months after paying for them, while the registration was processed. Only gun owners are deliberately treated so poorly (because of minimal funding/staff at the CFO), though our health care system isn't far behind in terms of poor service due to lack of proper funding.

I do not believe it was "deliberate" on the part of the CFO. They weren't expecting a tsunami of transfer requests prompted by the federal government "gun freeze."

The wait doesn't trouble me. I've waited a lot longer than 5 months for gunsmithing work to be done.
 
I do not believe it was "deliberate" on the part of the CFO. They weren't expecting a tsunami of transfer requests prompted by the federal government "gun freeze."

The wait doesn't trouble me. I've waited a lot longer than 5 months for gunsmithing work to be done.

True, they had no warning or control over the tsunami of transfers but management refused to address the problem with proven solutions like batch processing. For that I do blame them, management. Three cheers for the grunts who are working through this especially the rouge one doing the batch transfers last week.
 
I do not believe it was "deliberate" on the part of the CFO. They weren't expecting a tsunami of transfer requests prompted by the federal government "gun freeze."

The wait doesn't trouble me. I've waited a lot longer than 5 months for gunsmithing work to be done.

OK but the Ontario CFO has always been understaffed for transfers.
 
OK but the Ontario CFO has always been understaffed for transfers.

Yes they have. Before this latest fiasco, the transfer times have ranged from as low as 2 weeks to more that 8 weeks at times and it’s always been a staffing issue.

Kudos to Kerrie though for replying to an email request for an ATT and getting one out in the same day an in a couple of occasions in only one hour.
 
I do not believe it was "deliberate" on the part of the CFO. They weren't expecting a tsunami of transfer requests prompted by the federal government "gun freeze."

The wait doesn't trouble me. I've waited a lot longer than 5 months for gunsmithing work to be done.

Yes, that's why I stated that it was due to minimal funding and staff that gun owners were deliberately treated poorly. The Ontario CFO office has historically always been slower to process transfers, etc., than any other province. That is due to the CFO office having insufficient staff and resources, which is a direct result of insufficient funding, which is a deliberate decision made by the (provincial) government (whether the province is just being cheap or not really caring about gun owners).

A case can be made that, especially at this time when many people have multiple transfers in the queue, the CFO staff could increase efficiency by "batch processing". If you have, for instance, 4 transfers in the queue, it would be far more efficient if the CFO pulled the other 3 ahead and processed them when your first one came up - streamline the process and approve them all at once. CFO staff generally are not doing this, and that could be considered deliberate as well. They may be content to stretch this out for job security, as once the last of the transfers are approved, they're largely out of work as long as the freeze is in place. I'm sure they'll all end up in other desk jobs (or maybe they'll all stay on to process ATTs).

And then there's the time that I called in to initiate a transfer, had all the buyer's info at hand, and the CFO staffer refused to start the transfer because I did not have the .000x numbers from the buyer's PAL. I told her that those numbers were irrelevant, as they only indicated how many times it had been renewed. She wouldn't budge. The next day, I had gotten those numbers from the buyer, called in to the CFO office, and ended up with a different staffer. I explained the situation to the staffer and that I had the .000x numbers this time, and he/she chuckled a bit and told me "yeah, you don't need those numbers to start a transfer". I suppose that could have just been incompetence on the part of the first staffer, or it could have been someone being deliberately difficult. I'll never know.

Regardless of all the above, any competent organization facing such a backlog would allocate resources to deal with it expediently, to serve the "customers" better. Sure, the wait doesn't really bother me that much either - I've got plenty of other guns to shoot in the meantime - but it does bother me that we've become so accustomed to such poor service that we now accept it.
 
got an email from the cfp and thought my transfer was started but it was for a NR transfer... at this rate my B to P will be processed before my P to P, that was passed at 597###x....
 
There have been so few approved transfers this week I would have to assume that most of the staff have kids and they took this week off because their kids are not back to school until next Monday.

Things were looking good yesterday, but suddenly look slow today. One of mine should be near the top of the pile now..... any day now, it should come through.

I'm sure the dealers will be glad to get rid of all these guns that have been paid for but just sitting around, with them responsible for safe storage, etc.
 
Imagine the outrage if people's new cars had to sit rusting at dealers and they weren't allowed to take possession of them (let alone use them) for 5 months after paying for them, while the registration was processed. Only gun owners are deliberately treated so poorly (because of minimal funding/staff at the CFO), though our health care system isn't far behind in terms of poor service due to lack of proper funding.

Health care system is in perfect working order if you are a refugee-front of the line for everything including dental-need to go to NY and come back via roxham road
 
as stated above, workers are likely on leave with school children still out.
I am still waiting on a p to p 597###x and a b to p at 600###x, so mine must be in the wrong pile...
 
The highest number we saw at SFRC today, B2C, was 59850XX Aug 5th start, Jan 6th approval.
 
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