UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg

Petamocto said:
I'm curious to know how legit those numbers are. All logic would suggest that a heavier bullet with a generally similar propellant would be moving at less velocity, because the charge has more load to push down the barrel.

Speculating, but maybe HSM is giving performance numbers from a 44 rifle and the latter are using a revolver?

If not, and those are out of the same barrel, then HSM's Bear Load cartridge is certainly a monster of a recipe.
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Hey Petamocto,

As I said, I bought a box of this stuff from Ammo Supply about a month ago. The muzzle velocity is listed by the factory at 1260 fps for the 305 gr. WFN gas-check hard cast lead bullet. But (for some reason) there is no mention of the barrel-length that produced that number. I couldn't find it on the factory website or anywhere else on the Internet, either.

So I just now picked up the phone and talked to a friendly/helpful fellow in HSM's technical department down in Montana ... and learned that them numbers are from from a six-inch barrel. Very impressive ... my Rossi Ranch Hand has a 12-inch barrel, so I am good-to-go.
 
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Boomer: That is very impressive and thank you for calling them to find out.

Going to have to pick up a few to try in my new S&W 629 6.5". Maybe HSM's bear load is what Harry Callaghan meant about a 44 taking a man's head clean off.
 
stumpslayer said:
If a Rossi Mares leg can be acquired in 45 LC, would a .410 fit the same chamber? I've seen other guns in that caliber saying so.. such as a Taurus Rossi Circuit Judge.
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I don't think so, the 410 shell is much longer than the 45colt. Possibly loading one directly into the chamber, but I really don't think they will cycle. Easy to do in a revolver with a bit of a longer cylinder, not so easy in a lever gun. I think I might have a 410shell somewhere, maybe I'll dig it out and try, but I'm betting no way.
 
stumpslayer said:
If a Rossi Mares leg can be acquired in 45 LC, would a .410 fit the same chamber? I've seen other guns in that caliber saying so.. such as a Taurus Rossi Circuit Judge.
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I don't think so, the 410 shell is much longer than the 45colt. Possibly loading one directly into the chamber, but I really don't think they will cycle. Easy to do in a revolver with a bit of a longer cylinder, not so easy in a lever gun. I think I might have a 410shell somewhere, maybe I'll dig it out and try, but I'm betting no way.
 
Joined the mares leg club today with a .38/357 that crappy tire had (even used some ct money;) ). A little later than most, but I haven't really seen them for sale lately.
Would have preferred wanstalls but nil stock.
 
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Just made a holster for mine over the weekend. It's a 45 Colt bought used on CGN and had lots of fun getting it to feed and chamber but it's working slick now. I think when someone in Brazil stuck it together they grabbed a set of 44 magnum guide plates rather than 45 Colt. When the lifter would try to chamber the round it wouldn't fit through the guide plates as the space was too narrow. They had to be opened up to allow for 2 thousand on each side. Then the rim of the case was binding on the rim slots in the guide plates. The forward angle on the slots rather than being obtuse was a right angle. Once the angle was corrected the problem was solved. It feeds great now. I doubt it was even test fired before it left Brazil or if they even attempted to chamber a round.

 
Nice, I plan on making something similar when I get around to it. I picked up a case hardened version in 45LC a couple months ago and have had none of the issue talked about here. It chambers and cycles everything without issue, shoots to point of aim. It's fairly smooth and I assume will only get better as it wears in.

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Interbak said:
Nice, I plan on making something similar when I get around to it. I picked up a case hardened version in 45LC a couple months ago and have had none of the issue talked about here. It chambers and cycles everything without issue, shoots to point of aim. It's fairly smooth and I assume will only get better as it wears in.

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From what I understand it's a crap shoot. Michael the Rossi guru with Snap Shots Guns (the Rossi service center in Quebec) is a great guy to talk to.

Must all depend on who's sticking them together in Brazil....great you got one with no feeding problems.
 
Hey guys...my 73 year old eyes finally made me do it. My Rossi and I have entered the 21st century:



Some may call it sacrilegious but I call it a necessity....just can't focus on open sights any more. She is chambered in 45 Colt I just ran my BC griz load thru the chrono it's a 300 grain Hornady giving me a muzzle velocity of 1401 fps for a muzzle energy of 1307 ft-lbs. Stand in front of that if you dare!
 
This makes me immediately rethink my DA Grizzly purchase. I am going to be on the look out for one of these this weekend.
 
bushpilotmexico said:
From what I understand it's a crap shoot. Michael the Rossi guru with Snap Shots Guns (the Rossi service center in Quebec) is a great guy to talk to.

Must all depend on who's sticking them together in Brazil....great you got one with no feeding problems.
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This was the bolt on mine out of the box...

Also would eject the follow up round with the case, and had a dinged muzzle crown...
Sent it to snapshot to replace the bolt and work their magic
 
Can I ask you if this "Bc Griz" load is just a term or is it actually a load for grizzly bears? I have hear that .44 mag is the minimum no? Cheers, and very nice holster! Wow I want one !
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Hey guys...my 73 year old eyes finally made me do it. My Rossi and I have entered the 21st century:



Some may call it sacrilegious but I call it a necessity....just can't focus on open sights any more. She is chambered in 45 Colt I just ran my BC griz load thru the chrono it's a 300 grain Hornady giving me a muzzle velocity of 1401 fps for a muzzle energy of 1307 ft-lbs. Stand in front of that if you dare!
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