Well, Now They've Declared War.....

well i got my letter from The CFC for my Prohib's today . After talking with My MP I was informed under the table that come Monday there will be an election called and he suspects that this might get recended but he also said we must get a lawyer and unit to fight this we must fight or we will sink they the MP 's will do what they can but we must show we are willing to fight by legal action and show that we will not release our rights to sporting rifles and our rights as individuals.
 
My MP (NDP) has not replied to my email on the subject (no suprise).
However, I passed on the information that I had to an acquintance who is a 12(2) owner, who duly sent an email to his MP Steven Fletcher. Within two hours of having done this, he received a phone call from Fletcher's assistant and they set a date for them to meet and discuss how to defeat and solve this problem.

It is my understanding that another Winnipeg MP, Vic Toews, is the justice critic for the C-Party. :idea: Perhaps, if he were to receive emails from all of us the question might be brought out on the parliamentary floor and/or that he might assist as best he can. I know from the past when we were trying to defeat C-68 that he (as a MB MLA) came out and supported our cause. 8)

I also work in a firearms friendly environment and have encouraged my coworkers to email/fax their MP's regarding this issue. Even though none are affected by this amendment, to date five have done so.
 
My MP, Libby Davies (NDP) replied to my e-mail about general questions regarding the NDP's stand on firearms laws and the lack of info on their website regarding the party's view on them. This is the response i got from her:


"Thanks for the message, and I'm sorry you couldn't find anyrthing on the NDP Website regarding firearms. It is a bit of a contentious issue. We support gun control - but on the question of the registry - our caucus is divided. Our leader, Jack Layton, and myself, and others support the registry - though there are serious issues of mismanagement of it, while others in the NDP are opposed to the Registry. So, I hope this provides a little more information for you. If you have suggestions as an NDP member , you could write to the Acting Federal Secretary, Eric Hebert at ehebert@fed.ndp.ca and provide your suggestions and comments, as we do have a Convention this July, where policy issues will be considered.

Thanks for writing,

Sincerely,

Libby"
 
Got my letter yesterday when I got home from work. I especially like the way they underlined the section that says they are removing the only legitimate excuse (in their mind) to own prohib firearms. Bartok5 is 100% correct. If this stands, all 12(x) owners get ready for another nastygram when your license comes up for renewal. They swore up and down when they imposed the registry that it was not a tool for future confiscation, yet there it is underlined.

My letter is drafted and will be sent tonight. I am including one to "Mr. Baker" as well.

Auggie D.
 
ok letters are good :roll:
but what are we doing about this??
I just don,t get why u guys are not getting that pissed off about that.
or am i reading this wrong
i have gone to every person that i know that has 12(x) guns in the last 2 weeks
27 of them
only 2 of them know this was about to happen and that because my hotmail log in says "Last day to shoot prohib rifles April 9 2005 everyone go to the Range!!!"
WTF is going on how come nothin is in the news
How can somthing like peoples rights not matter enough to get in the news??
bbb
 
can you post a scanned image of the refusal letter ?

A scanned image of the letter would be useful :
I think this letter would be valuable as a tool to take to an MP for further discussion
 
badboybeeson said:
ok letters are good :roll:
but what are we doing about this??
I just don,t get why u guys are not getting that pissed off about that.
or am i reading this wrong
i have gone to every person that i know that has 12(x) guns in the last 2 weeks
27 of them
only 2 of them know this was about to happen and that because my hotmail log in says "Last day to shoot prohib rifles April 9 2005 everyone go to the Range!!!"
WTF is going on how come nothin is in the news
How can somthing like peoples rights not matter enough to get in the news??
bbb

And therin lies the problem. People are complacent. I no longer own any of the affected firearms (damn, I wish I still did), but nonetheless I will make every effort to fight this. All gun owners should be outraged at this. How is a CA any different from a Semi? Why are some guns prohib when others that fire the same calibre from the same barrel length are not? NOne of this makes sense unless you are a liberal gun grabber. This deserves media coverage, but I reckon that as a subset of a minority of gun owners the recognition will not be forthcoming.
 
Our Rights

I am no lawyer, but I do not think that we have the right to bare arms. It is the same as owning a car or soemthing like that.

The point here is that they LIED to gun owners. They have also changed the intent and meaning of the legislation which is illegal.
 
BBB, I think Agnomen is correct. I am personally VERY PISSED. Half my toys are in this boat, and I have friends who have the majority of their collection involved.
However the inititatives posted here on CGN seem to be the only things happenning. I keep waiting to hear from some major dealer who has just lost a small fortune in their inventory, or a 'smith that is seriously affected, but nothing- the only people who appear to be doing anything are here.
Add to that a "few pissed off fun owners" have a hard time competing with the Sponsorship scandal when a reporter needs some politics news.
 
well i do not have 12 x eather but i shure as #### have some big money tied up in other guns
i have $3600 into 1 ar15 alone
i don,t own anything that cost me less then $1500 other then a WW2 1911
so if this was to happen to me i would be so angry i think id pass out
i,m doing all i can to tell everyone but i,m not good at this letter writing stuff.
We have the same problems as the goverment.
We need a good leader with some balls
75 hours and counting!
WHAT WE GOING TO DO!
bbb
 
It is NRAAM or NRA annual meeting. I wonder if the good folk down south would be interested in helping our cause?? I mean, perhaps we popper neibours to the North require some financial aid, and perhaps some of their lawyers to help us with this fight!!

Just food for thought….

PS, Storm, you are still in first place to be our spokesman on this topic!!!! :wink:
 
HootbornE said:
It is NRAAM or NRA annual meeting. I wonder if the good folk down south would be interested in helping our cause?? I mean, perhaps we popper neibours to the North require some financial aid, and perhaps some of their lawyers to help us with this fight!!

Just food for thought….

PS, Storm, you are still in first place to be our spokesman on this topic!!!! :wink:
It's against the NRA's constitution or bylaws to work outside the US.
Has anyone heard anything from the NFA?
Still no reply from my MP. :evil:
 
Hello All!

Just a thought about getting the word out. In addition to calling MPs and CFOs for info, perhaps a few email/letters to columnists or "Letters to the Editor" of favourable papers like the National Post could start generating the coverage required.

For Your Consideration,

Frank
 
Their declaration of war?

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Received a reply from Gary's Parlimentary assistant!
Thanks for the excellent e-mail *******. This problem will all go away if the conservatives are given a chance to form government.

Dennis Young
Parliamentary Assistant
c/o Garry Breitkreuz, MP
House of Commons
Room 452D - Centre Block
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0A6
Phone: (613) 992-4394
Fax: (613) 992-8676
www.garrybreitkreuz.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1
Sent: April 2, 2005 9:22 AM
To: Firearms Digest (E-mail)
Subject: Letter from Commissioner of Firearms to Owners of Prohibited
Firearms


March 29, 2005 - Letter from Bill Baker, Commissioner of Firearms to Owners of Prohibited Firearms
http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/letter_march29_2005.pdf

FA s. 12(3) Converted Semi-Automatic Firearms
by Dave Tomlinson
http://www.nfa.ca/newsflashes/newsflash/converted-semi-automatic-firearms.-53.html

Firearms Owners Under Attack - Again!
by Bruce Mills
http://home.cogeco.ca/~akimoya/rfc/under.attack.html

C-10A(R) -- The Minister of Justice -- An Act to amend the Criminal Code
(firearms) and the Firearms Act (part of former Bill C-10)
Passed by the Senate -- December 4, 2002
Written declaration -- May 8, 2003
Royal Assent (Chapter No. 8) -- May 13, 2003
http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/2/parlbus/chambus/house/status/status1-e.html

BREITKREUZ'S REQUEST TO THE LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT

-----Original Message-----
From: Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1
Sent: March 30, 2005 8:48 AM
To: Library Research
Cc: Breitkreuz, Garry - M.P.
Subject: Prohibited firearms may no longer be transported to a shooting range?
Importance: High

Mr. Breitkreuz needs to know how many times this proposed regulation was raised by the Minister or government officials: (1) In any of the debates in the House or the Senate; (2) In any of the (House & Senate) Committee hearings and reports; and (3) In any of the public consultations of Bill C-10A and the regulatory process.

Prohibited firearms, other than prohibited 12(6) handguns, may no longer be transported to a shooting range. They may only be transported for specific purposes, such as a change of residence, repair, export, disposal or taken to a gun show.

Mr. Breitkreuz also needs the statistics that show for each year and each province (since the government started prohibiting firearms in 1976): A. How many ATTs have been issued to owners of registered prohibited firearms; B. How many ATTs have been revoked and how many criminal charges have been laid against owners of registered prohibited transporting their firearms to shooting ranges; C. The number of and type of public safety problems have been caused by the owners of registered prohibited firearms transporting their firearms to from and at the shooting ranges.

We are already receiving complaints about this and need this information as soon as possible.

Thanks, Dennis

Dennis Young
Parliamentary Assistant
Room 452D - Centre Block
Phone: (613) 992-4394
Fax: (613) 992-8676
www.garrybreitkreuz.com



CANADA FIREARMS CENTRE
Firearms Act Amendments Coming Into Force - Backgrounder

This backgrounder highlights some of the key amendments to the Firearms Act and its supporting regulations affecting firearm owners and businesses, as of April 10, 2005. The Firearms Act amendments being brought into force will appear in Part II of the Canada Gazette in the near future.
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/media/news_releases/2005/2005-03-29-bg_e.asp
 
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