When did folks become such recoil wimps?
- Thread starter Jim870
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It's funny though, that my 270 seems to kick hard when punching paper, but, not at all when shooting at the front half of a deer. Same goes for 12 gauge. Shooting clays, I can feel my shoulder, but, I can shoot ducks all evening without a twinge.
No, I started this more to stir the spot (quarantine boredom) and because I had a couple chuckle worthy interactions at the gun club of guys being interested in some of my rifles but being intimidated about trying them despite shooting rifles that recoil equally or more.
Had a couple guys shooting their .300 magnums a Weatherby and RUM that were really interested in the .35 Whelen and .38-55 I was shooting, I convinced the RUM owner to try the .38-55 and he couldn't believe how little the trailboss load I was shooting recoiled. The Weatherby owner was adamant it was an elephant gun and we were setting him up. I saw a younger fellow fire a single shot from a 7mm-08 say it was too much and then put 50 rounds through a 6.5 Creedmoor in identical platforms other than scopes, 140ish grain bullets at 2700fps from identical set ups should feel about the same, shouldn't they?
I agree that there is no need to shoot more than you're comfortable with and modern bullets have really changed what rounds are capable of. I was just curious what made things easily masterable in 2005 but excessive today.
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- Prince Albert, Sk
Well, to be honest, I still shoot just as poorly as I did in 2005 as I do now.
As for recoil, my limit is a rubber band hooked to the pinky, wrapped around the thumb and secured to the end of my index finger! To hell with lead and and brass and gun powder, that stuff hurts!
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
On the 416. Personally would recommend a plain jane.....cheap(when discussing 416 rigby its relative) cup n core. Your pushing a slug twice the weight at about 303/308 velocities. Say 24-2500. Its going to shed velocity quick, any shot beyond too close, could be going too slow to expand ideally.
No one notices recoil when shooting game. Not even the big boys with SxS elephant guns. Works that way.
It is wise to know one's limitations, that doesn't make you smarter...just makes you aware that you don't like recoil, lol
I am a odd ball. I love recoil, just love it. If it doesn't give you a big punch i don't like the gun, the one exception is my 223, I like shooting it as well.
But my two main rifles for hunting is my 375RUM and my 358 Norma.
I have had a bunch of different Nito cals, a 72cal black powder, and still run a 54cal black. Not that any one of them has killed deer any better than the old 25-06 I just love shooting them.
I did at the range one day watch a guy, shooting a 338-378 Weatherby, and was cursing the scope(SB) and the gun, as he could not get it sighted in at all.
After watching him shoot for a bit, I noticed that he was closing his eyes just as he pulled the trigger, lol. But he must have been scared stiff. He was commenting how that stupid $4000 scope must need to be sent back for warranty. I tried to trade him straight across for my VX1 leupold that was tracking just fine, but he politely declined.
Everyone is different I guess, and handles recoil differently. To some a 30-06 is to much, to me I have not found one with too much yet. I shot about 450 rounds out of my 375RUM in the last couple months and still am loving it.
But my two main rifles for hunting is my 375RUM and my 358 Norma.
I have had a bunch of different Nito cals, a 72cal black powder, and still run a 54cal black. Not that any one of them has killed deer any better than the old 25-06 I just love shooting them.
I did at the range one day watch a guy, shooting a 338-378 Weatherby, and was cursing the scope(SB) and the gun, as he could not get it sighted in at all.
After watching him shoot for a bit, I noticed that he was closing his eyes just as he pulled the trigger, lol. But he must have been scared stiff. He was commenting how that stupid $4000 scope must need to be sent back for warranty. I tried to trade him straight across for my VX1 leupold that was tracking just fine, but he politely declined.
Everyone is different I guess, and handles recoil differently. To some a 30-06 is to much, to me I have not found one with too much yet. I shot about 450 rounds out of my 375RUM in the last couple months and still am loving it.
dgradinaru
CGN frequent flyer
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- British Columbia
I agree and that has been on my thoughts. These are the only bullets i found at discounted prices. 64$ a box of 50 for 416CAL is a good buy considering most are north of 80$/50pcs
I have read that the horandy interbond is a soft bullet so im hoping it will do.
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I shot a 375rum as my main rifle for about 12 years, have had the rifle 18 years and not half that number....total. Grizzly the size of a smart car took a moose. Lately its a plain jane 30-06, my only game animal here are inbred lilliputian blacktail. Probably overbore with 243.
Its a combination of preferences, tolerance for recoil, ability, and on game performance. A excellent source for on game performance is Nathan Foster, and his ballistic studies. A interesting phrase he coined about folks who cant hit anything because of heavy recoiling calibers. Minute of ego.
^^^This
Any fool can be uncomfortable!
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there have been a few range days where I come home all bruised up.
Working up loads for my 338WM and sighting in a 458WM it does not take a lot of rounds from those 2 to leave bruises. Foolishly I started with those 2 and forgot I had the 243 along for some load development but after 40 rounds of 338 and 25 of 458 I was not really at my best.
but there is a lot to be said about design, look at the Nagant and No5 Enfield, both can be uncomfortable to shoot.
now some have mentioned price of ammo as a limiting factor, well you just need to invest in reloading. I have a 325WSM, looking at +$80/box if you can find any factory ammo, the 458WM is another expensive beast to feed so it gets all reloads. The 7mmRM and 300WM factory ammo offerings are a lot better but I still reload
Working up loads for my 338WM and sighting in a 458WM it does not take a lot of rounds from those 2 to leave bruises. Foolishly I started with those 2 and forgot I had the 243 along for some load development but after 40 rounds of 338 and 25 of 458 I was not really at my best.
but there is a lot to be said about design, look at the Nagant and No5 Enfield, both can be uncomfortable to shoot.
now some have mentioned price of ammo as a limiting factor, well you just need to invest in reloading. I have a 325WSM, looking at +$80/box if you can find any factory ammo, the 458WM is another expensive beast to feed so it gets all reloads. The 7mmRM and 300WM factory ammo offerings are a lot better but I still reload
I burned up 36 rds of ball ammo off hand with my Belgian military 30.'06 Mauser one nice summer day, wearing only a T-shirt.
I came home sore and it took a couple of weeks to feel right again. Wearing even a light jacket would have been better.
I came home sore and it took a couple of weeks to feel right again. Wearing even a light jacket would have been better.
My aren't we just a precious lil snowflake.
Hmmm... I thought that I was pretty benign on wording...why, even careful.
Some guys like big powerful stuff. I'm lucky that I get to tool around in big Turbo diesels a lot...got to love that big snorty power. That doesn't make me a fool... I just like rough, powerful stuff. It beats you up sometimes...worth it in my world.
No more than your not liking recoil doesn't make you a P*ssy... that would be rude.
