Wholesale Sports and rifles..your own..
- Thread starter sealhunter
- Start date
- Location
- Back in the Peace Country
I am not offended. just surprised at their reaction...and poor process..
I did as their sign asks, ...
Pudelpointer
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Lethbridge, Alberta
The policy of having hunting staff attend the front counter to check that your firearm is empty and escort you back to the gun counter is a fairly new policy. It is the result of WSS/UFA hiring a "firearms safety officer", done for completely PC reasons. The policy is stupid, the hunting staff thinks it is stupid, the management thinks it is stupid. At the Lethbridge WSS, the front staff doesn't freak out when a customer brings their firearms in, they just ask them, politely, to wait at the front counter until someone from the hunting counter can come clear it. Now maybe Lethbridge is an anomaly, since most of the front end staff have their PAL's.
Having said that, there is nothing quite as disconcerting as when you pull some fellows rifle out of its case and open the action, only to have a live round flick across the counter. It does not happen often, but it does happen; therefore I believe the idea of the new policy is to prove the firearm safe before it gets to the gun counter where people have a tendency to handle firearms (often assuming they are unloaded, cause hey, what kind of a mindless dipsh!t would have a loaded firearm there?).
Now there is no excuse for flipping out over a guy bringing as gun into a gun store, and I am sure the reaction you received was either the result of a misunderstanding or new/ less experienced staff. These things also vary from store to store, so you may be right and the staff there are as smart as a sack of hammers. Remember that the cashiers are just that, they are not hunting department staff. They are hired because they can count, deal with customers, and not steal from the register (and they do not always excel at all three things).
Now, Sealhunter, you seem like a level headed guy to me and I have no doubt that there was something about how the staff treated you that makes you feel like they over-reacted. However, perception is different for everyone: maybe the staff felt threatened by your newfie accent
p) maybe the staff you dealt with used to work at 7-11 and were robbed a number of times and this is their first week at the store. Who knows. Staff at these stores also have to deal with a-holes on a daily basis, as well as drunk/high customers, thieves, loudmouths, blow-hards, and multiple daily requests of:
"Sooooo, do you have a .223?"
"Sure, what are you looking for?"
"A .223 rifle?"
"Yes sir, any particular rifle? Bolt, pump, semi? Stainless synthetic? Wood and blued?"
"Ummmm. Are any of those .223?" (pointing at a wall with >100 rifles on it)
"Sure, here, this is a Remington 700 SPS bolt action in .223 rem."
"So, this is good for elk, eh?"
Smile, be friendly, and everything should be fine.
Having said that, there is nothing quite as disconcerting as when you pull some fellows rifle out of its case and open the action, only to have a live round flick across the counter. It does not happen often, but it does happen; therefore I believe the idea of the new policy is to prove the firearm safe before it gets to the gun counter where people have a tendency to handle firearms (often assuming they are unloaded, cause hey, what kind of a mindless dipsh!t would have a loaded firearm there?).
Now there is no excuse for flipping out over a guy bringing as gun into a gun store, and I am sure the reaction you received was either the result of a misunderstanding or new/ less experienced staff. These things also vary from store to store, so you may be right and the staff there are as smart as a sack of hammers. Remember that the cashiers are just that, they are not hunting department staff. They are hired because they can count, deal with customers, and not steal from the register (and they do not always excel at all three things).
Now, Sealhunter, you seem like a level headed guy to me and I have no doubt that there was something about how the staff treated you that makes you feel like they over-reacted. However, perception is different for everyone: maybe the staff felt threatened by your newfie accent
p) maybe the staff you dealt with used to work at 7-11 and were robbed a number of times and this is their first week at the store. Who knows. Staff at these stores also have to deal with a-holes on a daily basis, as well as drunk/high customers, thieves, loudmouths, blow-hards, and multiple daily requests of:"Sooooo, do you have a .223?"
"Sure, what are you looking for?"
"A .223 rifle?"
"Yes sir, any particular rifle? Bolt, pump, semi? Stainless synthetic? Wood and blued?"
"Ummmm. Are any of those .223?" (pointing at a wall with >100 rifles on it)
"Sure, here, this is a Remington 700 SPS bolt action in .223 rem."
"So, this is good for elk, eh?"
Smile, be friendly, and everything should be fine.
- Location
- Back in the Peace Country
I'm pretty positive there isn't, unless it came in the last year..
Seal Clubs!!!
You should see the chummy they have to be put in if ya wants to get da handle adjusted or da hook sharpend on your Hak,..
Direct Quote from Gary's Clubs and Seal Accesories:
All clubs and Haks must be propely cased upon enterin' da shop.
No smoking Player's light while in the store
(Export A and Du Maurier on a case by case basis)
If yer ungover, don't git sick in da shop.
If you is still drunk, and comes back later, when you are den hungover, don't git sick in da shop
After we sells you a club or Hak, you gets you to try it on 3 tame seals (we only keeps 9 on and, so if you is buyin more den tree haks or Clubs, please call in hadvance)
Last but not least,..Fadder died last November and Mudder is lonely someting awful. One free Hak sharpening (good for three undred hooks) to anyone who commits to takin her to bingo once a week up to Macarty's Bingo Bingo Bingo Extravaganza Super Ball.
Seal Clubs!!!
You should see the chummy they have to be put in if ya wants to get da handle adjusted or da hook sharpend on your Hak,..
Direct Quote from Gary's Clubs and Seal Accesories:
All clubs and Haks must be propely cased upon enterin' da shop.
No smoking Player's light while in the store
(Export A and Du Maurier on a case by case basis)
If yer ungover, don't git sick in da shop.
If you is still drunk, and comes back later, when you are den hungover, don't git sick in da shop
After we sells you a club or Hak, you gets you to try it on 3 tame seals (we only keeps 9 on and, so if you is buyin more den tree haks or Clubs, please call in hadvance)
Last but not least,..Fadder died last November and Mudder is lonely someting awful. One free Hak sharpening (good for three undred hooks) to anyone who commits to takin her to bingo once a week up to Macarty's Bingo Bingo Bingo Extravaganza Super Ball.
- Location
- Back in the Peace Country
The policy of having hunting staff attend the front counter to check that your firearm is empty and escort you back to the gun counter is a fairly new policy. It is the result of WSS/UFA hiring a "firearms safety officer", done for completely PC reasons. The policy is stupid, the hunting staff thinks it is stupid, the management thinks it is stupid. At the Lethbridge WSS, the front staff doesn't freak out when a customer brings their firearms in, they just ask them, politely, to wait at the front counter until someone from the hunting counter can come clear it. Now maybe Lethbridge is an anomaly, since most of the front end staff have their PAL's.
Having said that, there is nothing quite as disconcerting as when you pull some fellows rifle out of its case and open the action, only to have a live round flick across the counter. It does not happen often, but it does happen; therefore I believe the idea of the new policy is to prove the firearm safe before it gets to the gun counter where people have a tendency to handle firearms (often assuming they are unloaded, cause hey, what kind of a mindless dipsh!t would have a loaded firearm there?).
Now there is no excuse for flipping out over a guy bringing as gun into a gun store, and I am sure the reaction you received was either the result of a misunderstanding or new/ less experienced staff. These things also vary from store to store, so you may be right and the staff there are as smart as a sack of hammers. Remember that the cashiers are just that, they are not hunting department staff. They are hired because they can count, deal with customers, and not steal from the register (and they do not always excel at all three things).
Now, Sealhunter, you seem like a level headed guy to me and I have no doubt that there was something about how the staff treated you that makes you feel like they over-reacted. However, perception is different for everyone: maybe the staff felt threatened by your newfie accent
"Sooooo, do you have a .223?"
"Sure, what are you looking for?"
"A .223 rifle?"
"Yes sir, any particular rifle? Bolt, pump, semi? Stainless synthetic? Wood and blued?"
"Ummmm. Are any of those .223?" (pointing at a wall with >100 rifles on it)
"Sure, here, this is a Remington 700 SPS bolt action in .223 rem."
"So, this is good for elk, eh?"
Smile, be friendly, and everything should be fine.
I don't think they were alarmed at the fact that I had brought a gun in,... I think I may have been the first one to do it there, or at least with these epople working. They knew there was something they were supposed to do, and got excited.. I guess..
Kinda like the first guy who went to the airport with a bottle of juice after the new restrictions came in....
" He has juice, he has juice, there's a new policy about liquids, he has juice call a supervisor call a supervisor,....SIR !!!! SIR!!!!! you can't have juice in here !!!! "
At the end of the day...." hi there, new legislation says you can't bring liquids in excess of 6 oz on the aircraft, so you can either drink it here or we can dspose of it,.....great,,,thank you"
I have my own rest, and do my own installs at home. My rifle remained on the counter, laying on my open case. I knew pretty much ahead of time what I wanted, probably could have gone without the rifle but wanted to have it there anyway.
As they always say on the car ads, 'your mileage may vary'.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I've got $5 that says you're in there within the first month. Then again, if you think that TnT is a decent gun store yoiu may need your eyes opened.
Paulusmaximus2
Regular
- Location
- London, Ontario
Amen to that!!
Spark Shooter
New member
- Location
- Alberta, Canada
I went into the Edmonton North store a few weeks back looking for a recoil pad for my shotgun and the old guy working there said it would be better if I had it with me to fit it...and luckily I did, was in my truck, had it in my soft case with a lock and wandered right back in...the girls at the front counter didn't even flinch. Fitted the pad, paid for it and left, no one said anything. Maybe it was the case that helped...
The policy of having hunting staff attend the front counter to check that your firearm is empty and escort you back to the gun counter is a fairly new policy. It is the result of WSS/UFA hiring a "firearms safety officer", done for completely PC reasons. The policy is stupid, the hunting staff thinks it is stupid, the management thinks it is stupid. At the Lethbridge WSS, the front staff doesn't freak out when a customer brings their firearms in, they just ask them, politely, to wait at the front counter until someone from the hunting counter can come clear it. Now maybe Lethbridge is an anomaly, since most of the front end staff have their PAL's.
Having said that, there is nothing quite as disconcerting as when you pull some fellows rifle out of its case and open the action, only to have a live round flick across the counter. It does not happen often, but it does happen; therefore I believe the idea of the new policy is to prove the firearm safe before it gets to the gun counter where people have a tendency to handle firearms (often assuming they are unloaded, cause hey, what kind of a mindless dipsh!t would have a loaded firearm there?).
Now there is no excuse for flipping out over a guy bringing as gun into a gun store, and I am sure the reaction you received was either the result of a misunderstanding or new/ less experienced staff. These things also vary from store to store, so you may be right and the staff there are as smart as a sack of hammers. Remember that the cashiers are just that, they are not hunting department staff. They are hired because they can count, deal with customers, and not steal from the register (and they do not always excel at all three things).
Now, Sealhunter, you seem like a level headed guy to me and I have no doubt that there was something about how the staff treated you that makes you feel like they over-reacted. However, perception is different for everyone: maybe the staff felt threatened by your newfie accent
"Sooooo, do you have a .223?"
"Sure, what are you looking for?"
"A .223 rifle?"
"Yes sir, any particular rifle? Bolt, pump, semi? Stainless synthetic? Wood and blued?"
"Ummmm. Are any of those .223?" (pointing at a wall with >100 rifles on it)
"Sure, here, this is a Remington 700 SPS bolt action in .223 rem."
"So, this is good for elk, eh?"
Smile, be friendly, and everything should be fine.
I too, have worked behind a gun counter. One day a fellow came in an laid a Lee Enfield on the counter. I was busy, and couldn't get to him for about five minutes. I picked up the rifle, flipped the bolt open and out popped a loaded round! The rifle was cocked and the safety wasn't on. It was a miracle that no one picked up the rifle, and like so many do, pull the trigger.
I have seen those other types you mention, also. As well as the lady who wanted to buy a scope and mounts for her husbands 30-06, for Christmas. I asked her what kind of a rifle it was, and she litterly snarled at me. "IT'S A 30-06, ARE THERE ANY OTHER KINDS OF 30-06's."
Then there are the guys who want a box of 306 shells.
Plus the guy who came in for a box of 6.5 ammunition. I asked him was it for a 6.5 x 54 or a 6.5 x 55. We had both in stock. He said, "to fit this chamber." And with that, he pulled from under his jacket a rifle barrel, turned up so he could try a shell in the chamber! I actually sputtered, while I thought of something to say, then told him to not just screw it back on and shoot it. "Why not," he said, "I often do this!"
At the Rocky View Bass Pro they have a large sign stating that rifles and bows must be checked at customer service prior to entering the store. It seems to me Wholesale has adopted a similar policy. This may not be a decision of the store manager or any person at the gun counter. My money is that its a requirement of their insurance company; somwhere that its pretty easy for any of us to direct resentment at. You know.... the same insurer who would be on the hook for any damages caused by the sort of gun owner who brings in a loaded Lee Enfield with the safety off and leaves it on a counter.
A small mom & pop shop may not have such rules to abide by imposed by their insurer, but you can bet the big chain stores will have people looking into risk management. It might not be the PC liberal bogey-man that many here are worried about, but the big business insurance bogey-man ( I agree both are detestable).
A small mom & pop shop may not have such rules to abide by imposed by their insurer, but you can bet the big chain stores will have people looking into risk management. It might not be the PC liberal bogey-man that many here are worried about, but the big business insurance bogey-man ( I agree both are detestable).
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
The staff at the local WSS know me so when I walk in with my rifles they greet me by name and they just look at me and if I have a gun in hand they just go "bringing in another one?" So it might depends on who they are most of the cashiers don't have their Pals or at least at the Kamloops store they don't so sometimes a little heads up might help. But I do agree it is a gun store so they should expect to see GUNS being brought in to the store randomly for accessories as our moods see fit.
X2, Do not want kid's to see gun's in a gun store, they'll turn into gunnutz.If they don't want to expose their children to the evil that is firearms, perhaps they should pick a venue that doesn't have 100 firearms on display, and potential customers handling these evil firearms.
Keep hiding them gun's, pretty soon everybody will be scared of them.
I've been to a couple Bass Pro's in the USA (including some in the deep south) and they all have the "please check your firearms at customer service" signs on the doors. If they do that in the gun-friendly, right-wing, redneck south....then I'm almost positive it isn't a PC liberal bogey man.
Ontario Sporting supply ?
The dead sales clerk was a good guy - left a family--
So? 4000+ people die on our highways a year; so I shouldn't take my car to the mechanic?
I think that is for totally different reasons. I was at one of the big Cabela's stores in the states and though I didn't see signs like that I am sure they were there. In that store, they had rack after rack of rifles and shotguns on the floor where even poor little children could access them. (Nobody thought of the children!) They were there for anybody to fondle and weren't held down by any cable. I don't suppose it would be too difficult to bring in your own (empty) case to have an employee 'check your rifle' and walk out with a stolen gun.
Undergiver
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Sturgeon County, AB
My seven year old is facinated with guns and hunting, I can't wait to take him to the Cabela's in Lacey, WA.
