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As much as I like them...There are far better options than a S&w j-frame. Many modern semis beat the j-frame hands down.
I agree with everything else.
I agree with everything else.
Would You Carry A Pocket Pistol?
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That is why I said a J-frame is as pocket as I get.
In general I'd rather be carrying a Glock 19.
I'll tell you what the J-frames excel at, though: if you get in a fistfight and need to draw while getting beaten, J-frames and other revolvers in that size are both extremely difficult to strip out of a person's hand, and extremely difficult to prevent from firing repeatedly. You'd think that a firm grip on the gun would prevent the cylinder from rotating, but in reality you have to be fighting someone with spectacular grip strength to prevent it. My own grip is good for around 200 pounds and I can't stop it while grappling. And you don't get a 200 pound grip without training. You'll very rarely encounter men who can shut down a compact revolver in the hands of even an untrained individual.
So if I had to make contact shots or near-contact shots while fighting someone with a bit of training as a fighter, I'd actually prefer a small revolver to almost anything. It's very hard to deal with.
I've had an Astra 7000 .22LR pistol for about 35 years now...pretty much a copy of the Baby Browning. It's cute and fairly reliable, but I'd say it was an absolutely last-ditch defensive weapon.
My understanding of the tactical use of a .22 pistol is to basically empty the mag into your target, and hope for the best. I'd also feel a bit nervous carrying it loose in my pocket...I'd much rather have a mini 9mm like a Beretta Nano in an IWB holster.
Heh..I haven't fired that Astra for years...maybe this weekend I'll take it for a pop.
My understanding of the tactical use of a .22 pistol is to basically empty the mag into your target, and hope for the best. I'd also feel a bit nervous carrying it loose in my pocket...I'd much rather have a mini 9mm like a Beretta Nano in an IWB holster.
Heh..I haven't fired that Astra for years...maybe this weekend I'll take it for a pop.
If only Canada had open/CCW carry... This discussion comes up a lot at work, in lieu of recent(ish) events. Being military in Canada, and with the two recent attacks, everyone agrees that CCW should be a more viable option for Canadians. If you're licenced, have a CCW course, and pass the background checks, it really should be a thing. Alas, with all the idiots out there, this will never ever happen.
For myself, I'd love an FNS-9 or 40 as a daily/concealed carry pistol.
For myself, I'd love an FNS-9 or 40 as a daily/concealed carry pistol.
One thing to remember, when John Browning invented .25 ACP and .32 ACP, there was no such thing a antibiotics, if you punched a hole in someone with one of those little bullets he was pretty well most likely gonna die. Pulling a gun was usually enough to stop a fight, as it usually is now.
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If it's got a slide it can be stopped; if it's got an exposed cylinder it can be stopped.
They can all be stopped. Can a trained person stop a compact revolver? In my experience, virtually never.
Can a person without specialized training do it? Not on anyone with even rudimentary training.
What you can do is direct the muzzle away from your body. But again, a trained individual will generally be able to put rounds in you mid-grapple. You will not necessarily be able to control, or even identify, a weapon.
That's my experience.
I wouldn't bother with anything that small, personally, but if it were legal, like others here I'd probably carry my Glock G19 or G23 daily. I'd maybe be into a .380 Makarov or Walther, but that'd be about as small as I'd go.
In the woods, I'd carry my 460v
In the woods, I'd carry my 460v
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You'll wish you could/were when some crackhead is charging you with a knife in their hands! Always better to have something and not need it. Your attitude is what got CCW banned back in '77 way before I was born, save for the lucky 500-600 or so who have an ATC for civilians self defence.
It's just another tool in the box.
For people who might need a hideout/"onion field" deep concealment pistol, there is a place for a high quality, well engineered mouse gun like the Baby Browning in reliable .25 ACP ball.
For people who might need a hideout/"onion field" deep concealment pistol, there is a place for a high quality, well engineered mouse gun like the Baby Browning in reliable .25 ACP ball.
The problem with the Browning pocket pistols is that if the sear or striker breaks, the pistol goes full auto in your pants, something like a Sten gun:
This is why the Walther PP became popular.
For carrying 365 days a year, you will appreciate a scaled down pistol though.
This is why the Walther PP became popular.
For carrying 365 days a year, you will appreciate a scaled down pistol though.
The problem with the Browning pocket pistols is that if the sear or striker breaks, the pistol goes full auto in your pants, something like a Sten gun:
This is why the Walther PP became popular.
For carrying 365 days a year, you will appreciate a scaled down pistol though.
Based on the comments I've seen from the US by people who have carried Baby Brownings, in a CCW legal jurisdiction I'd carry it in Condition 3 and do an Israeli Draw if it was ever needed.
