Xcr break in issues

SnoPac said:
Yep. You should definitely purchase one of the those other options. Then you can be 100 percent guaranteed to have a reliable firearm other than the one who's threads you troll.
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It appears you don't like any negative posts about certain brands of rifles being posted or questions being asked......This is after all a forum to discuss these types of issues rather than keep them hidden from possible buyers is it not?

If you are so confident in the rifle how about you do the break in and I will pay you $100 extra for the rifle if it is 100% reliable after, that way I don't have to worry about getting a lemon.
 
Keep shooting it, from what I see, there is nothing out of the ordinary.

Machined parts with tight tolerances require time to wear off the excess finish in some areas.

Make sure you use quality magazines with the firearm.
 
Brian46 said:
It appears you don't like any negative posts about certain brands of rifles being posted or questions being asked......This is after all a forum to discuss these types of issues rather than keep them hidden from possible buyers is it not?

If you are so confident in the rifle how about you do the break in and I will pay you $100 extra for the rifle if it is 100% reliable after, that way I don't have to worry about getting a lemon.
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Me? I think you got that backwards bud. I haven't claimed the XCR to be reliable or otherwise as I don't own one. I am however able to spot patterns of behavior in certain threads pertaining to the these guns.
 
Iv'e owned 3 NEW out of the box XCR-L rifles in both .223 and 7.62x39
Break in was 300rds according to the manual that came with each one.

This is my personal experience and I want to say I do luv the platform and ergonomics.
All 3 rifle had parts that malfunctioned: WOLVERINE SUPPLIES replaces all parts super fast with ZERO hassle, amazing customer service.

1) .223 conversion kit was out of spec, (Replaced under warranty)
2) Buffer pad disintegrated after break in (Replaced under warranty)
3) Bolt and extractor blew apart, spring and rubber part went flying and I could not find it. (Replaced under warranty)
3) 2 x Bolt catch broke in half (Replaced under warranty)
4) OP ROD Cracked and broke (Replaced under warranty)
5) Gas Valve was out of spec (Replaced under warranty)
6) Bolt catch engaged, sometimes would slam forward when inserting a magazine and chamber a round.

I like the fact the rifle is NON Restricted but I ended up dropping the platform because of reliability issues I personally experienced.

Believe it or not I'm still intrigued and waiting to see what the new revision reviews will be like with key mod rail and new bolt improvement.
 
^Great to know from an experienced owner. I don't think I could go back after that many issues. The XCR's definitely seem to be a polarizing gun. Thank you.
 
ogradyrw said:
Iv'e owned 3 NEW out of the box XCR-L rifles in both .223 and 7.62x39
Break in was 300rds according to the manual that came with each one.

This is my personal experience and I want to say I do luv the platform and ergonomics.
All 3 rifle had parts that malfunctioned: WOLVERINE SUPPLIES replaces all parts super fast with ZERO hassle, amazing customer service.

1) .223 conversion kit was out of spec, (Replaced under warranty)
2) Buffer pad disintegrated after break in (Replaced under warranty)
3) Bolt and extractor blew apart, spring and rubber part went flying and I could not find it. (Replaced under warranty)
3) 2 x Bolt catch broke in half (Replaced under warranty)
4) OP ROD Cracked and broke (Replaced under warranty)
5) Gas Valve was out of spec (Replaced under warranty)
6) Bolt catch engaged, sometimes would slam forward when inserting a magazine and chamber a round.

I like the fact the rifle is NON Restricted but I ended up dropping the platform because of reliability issues I personally experienced.

Believe it or not I'm still intrigued and waiting to see what the new revision reviews will be like with key mod rail and new bolt improvement.
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You mean it was actually your rifle and not a buddies, who never sought warranty just punted it off???

In all seriousness, good valid reasons....from an owner...and solid reasons why you weren't happy. I have to wonder if this break in period is not the "issue" on some. My manual says 40rds and I stuck to it. I have been running on gas setting 2 since and the rifle runs flawlessly....and I have half a crate of 1120 Norc rounds through it. While running at #4, the slap was pretty hard, so perhaps things loosen up when running at this setting for sustained periods. Then again, what do I know. If it was my buddies rifle, I would be more qualified to jump into each and every XCR thread! :jerkit:

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berger said:
You mean it was actually your rifle and not a buddies, who never sought warranty just punted it off???

In all seriousness, good valid reasons....from an owner...and solid reasons why you weren't happy. I have to wonder if this break in period is not the "issue" on some. My manual says 40rds and I stuck to it. I have been running on gas setting 2 since and the rifle runs flawlessly....and I have half a crate of 1120 Norc rounds through it. While running at #4, the slap was pretty hard, so perhaps things loosen up when running at this setting for sustained periods. Then again, what do I know. If it was my buddies rifle, I would be more qualified to jump into each and every XCR thread! :jerkit:

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I should also add after all those issues were resolved by wolverine the rifle's did function well!
 
Brian46 said:
what doesn't make sense?

How many xcr's have you owned to call my months of shooting with the same xcr a "one time experience"? Is it because it was sold off because of the problems you discount my experiences.......
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I own enough firearms to know not to kept on going to every single xcr thread and say they suck etc.
Yes,xcr had issues... But really which firearm didn't have issues when it first came out?
If the problems are fixed, then that's good!
The newer versions of xcr runs good. Maybe the xcr you tried a few years ago was bad, but that was a few years ago.

I have some issues with a DD, so should I start bashing all DD related threads?
 
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canadiansurvivor said:
Guys, I care a lot more about what the OP has to say/updates than you two arguing. Let's try to not clutter this thread up too much

CS :canadaFlag:
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Well, considering I have the generation before the keymod and I had no issues. My points and evidence stands.
The new generations of XCR-L has the new bolt system and buffer, maybe that will change things a little bit.
 
Fun pissing match guys, get over yourselves.

Op, in your shoes I'd try a couple things.
1-"well lubed" contradicts every clean/lube instruction in the manual. Re-read and do over.
2-engine oil belongs in an engine. 0 winter is still too thick for this application. I'd use a light gun oil, sparingly.
3-probably most important, turn the gas down.
4-use multiple numbered mags to see if fault lies with one particular mag.

I've read everything from 40 rounds, to "up to 200 rounds" for break in, "up to" implies possibly less. What if your rifle was broke in after 40 rounds like mine was, and running the gas high is causing or compounding the problem. You stated the brass is landing 10-15 feet away, 8 feet is far enough. If gas setting 2 or 3 will get 8-10 feet, run it there.

Fwiw, I've had 2 fte on my own XCR and a broken op-rod. The 2 fte were on gas 1 when the rifle was new. The op-rod was somewhere around 3000 rounds. I'm just shy of 7000 rounds and those are my only failures.
My gas setting was on 2 the first day out, within the first 80 rounds. It's now on 1 and brass still flies 10 feet.
 
canadiansurvivor said:
I would say the fact its only throwing brass 5 feet on setting 4 is an actual issue, but yes, the brass on the bolt and bolt hangup don't seem to be real problems.
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Unless someone was monitoring where each casing lands, just as easily for the empty casing to roll or bounce back a few feet. As long as your gas port is set properly so there is enough to power to extract and feed without failure, who gives a flying leap where your casing lands.

Both my rifle and pistol are set to 3, shooting glorious surplus commie ammo, once in awhile I get a batch of ammo that would jam up I just dial it up to 4 and don't think about it. I have probably pelted everyone at my range with my empties at one point or another, most of them would wonder over and see WTF I am shooting, I just let them shoot a couple mags, they all walk away with smiles on their faces.
 
ogradyrw said:
Iv'e owned 3 NEW out of the box XCR-L rifles in both .223 and 7.62x39
Break in was 300rds according to the manual that came with each one.

This is my personal experience and I want to say I do luv the platform and ergonomics.
All 3 rifle had parts that malfunctioned: WOLVERINE SUPPLIES replaces all parts super fast with ZERO hassle, amazing customer service.

1) .223 conversion kit was out of spec, (Replaced under warranty)
2) Buffer pad disintegrated after break in (Replaced under warranty)
3) Bolt and extractor blew apart, spring and rubber part went flying and I could not find it. (Replaced under warranty)
3) 2 x Bolt catch broke in half (Replaced under warranty)
4) OP ROD Cracked and broke (Replaced under warranty)
5) Gas Valve was out of spec (Replaced under warranty)
6) Bolt catch engaged, sometimes would slam forward when inserting a magazine and chamber a round.

I like the fact the rifle is NON Restricted but I ended up dropping the platform because of reliability issues I personally experienced.

Believe it or not I'm still intrigued and waiting to see what the new revision reviews will be like with key mod rail and new bolt improvement.
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Me and my friend had similar issues with his, went to a smith twice for warranty repairs similar to your list/experience but I didn't own the rifle so that negates the experience.
 
andrew3081 said:
I own enough firearms to know not to kept on going to every single xcr thread and say they suck etc.
Yes,xcr had issues... But really which firearm didn't have issues when it first came out?
If the problems are fixed, then that's good!
The newer versions of xcr runs good. Maybe the xcr you tried a few years ago was bad, but that was a few years ago.

I have some issues with a DD, so should I start bashing all DD related threads?
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do what you like, informing people there are problems is bashing in your eyes so you already can't see that it is just information being posted and people can make an informed decission on their own from there.

Just like how RA claimed at shot all previous issues are fixed with the new version and we have this thread already after they just started shipping out in Canada. I was willing to give it another try, almost even preordered one from Wolverine but now with problems again on the new model I will wait and see or buy one used so I can see it is problem free beforehand.
 
Jeez! Lots of guys here who know how trash talk something they don't own. I was after info regarding the minor issues I have thanks for the replies that have to do with the original post. I'll try switching the lube for sure it was cold that day. And a different mag. As I only had the one.
To clarify nothing is that big of a deal. 60 rounds through it on a new machine with only 2 problems. I'll try the ideas some of you pointed out and let you know how it turned out.
 
mctrigger said:
Jeez! Lots of guys here who know how trash talk something they don't own.
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Ownership gives someone more internet authority to post issues than someone else? I could understand if maybe the firearm was out of my sight even just once but since it was at the same adress, in the same safe as my own and I transported it every time to and from shooting locations including shooting the firearm and taking it to the smith up untill it was sold, I fail to see what the name on the reciept matters other than to internet forum masters.
 
Own clearly was the wrong word. What I was trying to state is that I if other folks don't want to buy a new xcr based on what my issues were has no real effect on problem solving my firearm or anyone's else's with the same problem. Right? So anyone can feel free to reference this post to say " hey look what can happen" but it was started to sole this issues not start them. To say that it's garbage because of flaws that need to be worked out is pretty harsh. You buy a new 70,000 diesel or a 15,000 sled and it won't make power till it's broke in. This gun could be the same way it's a complicated device. And to say its faulty after 60 rounds is a bit much.
 
Hey op my xcr (newest model before key mod) hates Winchester ammo. Even though I'm way past my break in period, I still get the ocasional stove pipe and light ejection (gas setting 1) all other ammo works great
 
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