yes another xcr question

The XCR is something I would love to buy. It's very, very high on my list. Hopefully some good luck comes around and I can have the extra funds to get one! I'd enjoy that very much.
 
00aught said:
So I guess Alex Robinson is a "poorly informed hater". Maybe you should read your manual.
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Let's be honest here, the manual is there to cover manufacture's ass.
When the manual tell you not to use reload ammo, does that mean the gun sucks?
No offence, but your opinion is based on facts from the Internet.
Until you actually have own one or shot one, all the facts you gather are from some guy on the Internet that is posting everywhere and complaining about his lemon XCR.
 
andrew3081 said:
Let's be honest here, the manual is there to cover manufacture's ass.
When the manual tell you not to use reload ammo, does that mean the gun sucks?
No offence, but your opinion is based on facts from the Internet.
Until you actually have own one or shot one, all the facts you gather are from some guy on the Internet that is posting everywhere and complaining about his lemon XCR.
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Some of my opinion is based off information from the internet. As I'm sure your opinion on something's are based off information from the internet. And yes I have shot an xcr before it ran perfectly. But I've also witnessed an ejector falling out of the rifle. An yes the manual is there to cover the company's ass. So when customers calls in and says a part fell off their rifle they can say read the manual. No need to get all butt hurt over someone giving valid information. Weather I've owned one or not I still know the issues involved with the rifle. most have been fixed except for the way the parts are held on. As soon as they stop using screws for everything I will definitely buy one. Wouldn't you be happy if someone let you know some of the issues with a rifle before you bought it? I sure would!
 
I've got an XCR L 7.62x39 with ~ 5400 rounds through it.
Every round has gone bang, EVERY round. (all corrosive surplus)
3800 rounds, my op-rod broke. $100 stocking part, no biggie.

It's a fun rifle, and my favorite. Is it perfect, fvck no, but what is. My only real complaint is the weight.
I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
 
A fellow CGN'er let me shoot his x39 (thanks bud - you know who you are:). It was a recent model and I was impressed, and want one. With the new lighter key mod version ( and the optional light 5.56mm barrel for that caliber), I think the XCR has become even more appealing. I want something NR , and with the recent improvements and most issues ironed out now, this is looking like the ticket for me.
 
Mine has been excelent as well... serial number in the 7### range. approximately 4000 rounds in, the only thing that's happened to mine is one broken firing pin. I checked the bolts when I got it and periodically when I clean the rifle, and nothing has ever been loose. That being said if something were coming loose I certainly wouldn't be ruling out the rifle if it needed a dab of blue loctite here and there. I've loctited threaded fasteners on plenty of other firearms I own if there is a chance they'll come loose.
 
Got an M in early December... Love it.

Pros
-NR
-Ergos
-Disassembly and Cleaning a Snap
-So far, very reliable
-new keymod looks great, not enough to make me sell mine though
-Conversion Kits for the L, 6.8 and 7.62x39

Cons
-likely never be moa
-Heavy front end, keymod would help this but I usually just try to put on my big boy pants
-Not exactly Cheap
-No kits for the M yet
-Small OEM grip

I'm divided on the fast stock, I like it but I don't like it... it's a strange love hate relationship.

If my bank account ever recovers from the coma it is in, I will buy a bipod and optic for it and work on accuracy for a bit as the precision bug has bitten again.

I find my M to be an 11 on a scale of 10 for "hoot to shoot" !

This was the second day out at 100yds, combination of standing and sitting/bagged shooting. Was really just trying to get the feel of it. Using a Trijicon 1x42 Reflex.
Nothing to write home about but I was pleased enough...

 
Jäger said:
No problems with mine. You won't be disappointed buying a new model. When buying used, avoid guns with serial numbers under 7,000 to dodge the revisions that had some problems.
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Well I bought a new one in XCR-L 6.8 SPC and I am very disappointed so far:(

But only cause it is sitting a home , I have not even seen it yet and I am way working for
probably another month or so. It's starting to wear on my nerves already!!!:bangHead::sniper:
 
I bought an XCR-L 223 Rem 3 years back and was very satisfied, my only 3 issues:
  • its need a 400 rounds breaking in period (it's in the manual)
  • the gas block needs retightening after 800 rounds fired (also in the manual)
  • it's heavy!
My rifle was very accurate and I only sold it because it was not used enough to justify owning (and I needed some cash).

Alex
 
I bought an L in December, sold a T97 to help pay for it. I read all the posts and almost all negative or "helpful" comments came from those who were not owners, so I took their comments with a grain of salt. Listen to those who own one and not the guys who shot a buddies. You can read all about the issues yourself.

Mine now has about 1000rds through it, all without issue and all surplus. Break in is now 40rds, by the way.

Make sure a bullpup is for you. They weren't for me, and that included the Tavor. As for the keymods.....that may take longer to get, and guys seriously need to hit the gym. Weight is not an issue for me at all. Research the ACR and Tavor, and I am sure you will find complaints, not to mention whiney and unhappy customers.....or comments from guys who shot a buddies!!
 
as berger said .... like the acr and tavor have their problems too ... do some research on them, very east to find ( type in mushy triggers and ftf lol i kidd i kidd) ... but as an xcr OWNER i must say its the gun i love the most out of all of mine... still to this day not a single ftf fte, also not a single drop of loctite. as for the weight, lets just say my wife doesn't have a problem with it and shes not big and stong like a man ( her words ), she also shoots from the shoulder with it at ease. lets just say men who complain about the weight of the xcr are the same guys who cant carry all the grocery bags in on one trip :)
 
andrew3081 said:
Let's be honest here, the manual is there to cover manufacture's ass.
When the manual tell you not to use reload ammo, does that mean the gun sucks?
No offence, but your opinion is based on facts from the Internet.
Until you actually have own one or shot one, all the facts you gather are from some guy on the Internet that is posting everywhere and complaining about his lemon XCR.
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I would hate to think like you because your idea of having to own something to be allowed to make my own informed opinion on the quality and operation of a firearm sounds expensive and counter productive to having good quality arms in my safe.
 
I'm a lefty and since my SU-16 cracked a receiver a little while ago, I have been looking around for another non-restricted .223. I was waffling between the XCR and Tavor also...but ended up buying a new Tavor yesterday with the new trigger pack and railed forend. In the end, being fully ambi and the shorter length were what made me go with the Tavor. I also have a JRC, and I noticed the length of it when I brought it with me on trips, and I didn't want another long rifle for that reason. The Tavor made sense for being compact and still retain the long barrel in my case. New lefty bolt's coming too.
 
Allstone said:
In the end, being fully ambi and the shorter length were what made me go with the Tavor.
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Excellent reason to choose one over the other. I can definitely see that being a plus for a lefty.

Beats the "cause you need locktite" reasoning.
 
I bought a 1### sn xcr off the ee from a guy who knew he had a bad shooter. (Like half the stuff on the ee). It also had a problem with pierced primers. I loved the xcr ergonomics, design, unrestricted classification that I gambled again and bought another conversion kit from Wolverine. (Bolt barrel) around a year ago. The rifle is definitely a shooter and is excellent for predator hunting.

I do not regret the purchase and would never sell. I will eventually upgrade the original trigger. (It has always been fine, but the second stage break is uneven and my recent studying with top notch gear from the bolt action department is making me snobby. I will replace the pistol grip with a hogue. Maybe replace the stock, maybe. I also love the MI BUIS that co-witness with an aim point m3 on an arms quick release mount.

All of the issues are well known and worked out by the manufacturer. I knowingly took a gamble on the new kid on the block fully expecting small issues. I can't speak to its battle readiness, but as a bush/range/tactical training/hunting gun, it gets my armchair general seal of approval. I have never had anything come loose, but I did lock tite the ejector jic, based on early reports. The gun never suffered ftf, fte, or ftl.
 
Paul Morrison said:
Don't listen to the poorly informed haters. I've had my XCR for about 6 years. I've never needed to loctite anything. Only problem I ever had was I lost a pin that retains the upper and lower (it was during the EESA open house, no idea how it happened I was elsewhere). I called up, they sent me 5 replacements in case I lost one ever again. My experience is overwhelmingly positive, both from a product and a customer service perspective.
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Just curious... Did you talk to RA directly or to Wolverine Supplies??
 
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