Can't understand 1911
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They're about the same, but one fits in an actual 1911.
r34skyline
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For good reason, it's an excellent design.
On a sidenote, nothing wrong with the browning tilt action design, which is what my P30L uses. But please if you think your 1911 holds a candle to it by all means you are welcome to take the pistol courses with me this summer to prove me wrong, I'll even pay for it if it performs on par or better than it.
Didn't know that we were having a #### measuring contest here. I buy guns and I keep the ones that I like. Through trial and error I've found that I like the 1911. It fits my hand, it fits my sense of style, it makes me smile. It performs on par with or better than any other pistol I've owned
I target shoot, besides - I don't run n gun n holster draw fer fun
You can come punch paper with me anytime you like.
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1riot1ranger
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.38 Super (or .38 Supercomp) and 9mm major are the calibers of choice for the Open Division guys (compensators and optical sights).
Not everyone has the budget to blow through 300 rounds of 45ACP a couple of times a week. I've only started shooting pistols, but going to the range once a week and burning through a ton of ammo got me thinking prices. So I got one 1911 in 45ACP, then one in 9mm to save some cost, and I'm getting one more in .22LR for when I'm feeling extra stingy.
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Holds a candle to it for what? P30L looks like it ripped off the Walther PPQ, and with the DA/SA action it's going to be second place on splits vs any 1911 lol.
Run your P30L through a production match and see how far back you place from the guys shooting Glocks....
r34skyline
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Lol splits, what about a moz drill when filled with mud? I buy go to war guns, not playtoys.
On a sidenote P30L came out before the glock wannabe walther. Try again.
And looks? Who gives a #### how it looks, how does it function under the most adverse conditions, that's what is critical.
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r34skyline
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Not a single one, how astute of you XD
We are obviously worlds apart in how we view and use firearms.
I shoot as a form of moving meditation, to relax and be in the moment. You like to play soldier and toss your gun in the mud.
I appreciate workmanship and mechanical things in a world where more and more of everything is plastic and digital. You hope to be in at the front whenever S might HTF.
That's fine. The gun industry accommodates both of us
But why are you in this thread, picking arguments?
Reminds me of TDC and his crusades to be right at all costs.
I shoot as a form of moving meditation, to relax and be in the moment. You like to play soldier and toss your gun in the mud.
I appreciate workmanship and mechanical things in a world where more and more of everything is plastic and digital. You hope to be in at the front whenever S might HTF.
That's fine. The gun industry accommodates both of us
But why are you in this thread, picking arguments?
Reminds me of TDC and his crusades to be right at all costs.
r34skyline
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Playing? You assume more about me than you know.
Pissing matches aside, I think most people will choose their equipment based on a floating set of parameters, primary among which is intended use.
There is a reason though, that competitive shooters tend to gravitate towards specific platforms and believe me, style and manliness has very little to do with it. If you want to be competitive you'll use something that is proven over time to work work best for its intended purpose, be it a 19/2011, a CZ, H&K, whatever. For action pistol competition, the 1911 pattern remains king. Maybe a modern fighting gun requires a different design. That's cool. Form should follow function.
There is a reason though, that competitive shooters tend to gravitate towards specific platforms and believe me, style and manliness has very little to do with it. If you want to be competitive you'll use something that is proven over time to work work best for its intended purpose, be it a 19/2011, a CZ, H&K, whatever. For action pistol competition, the 1911 pattern remains king. Maybe a modern fighting gun requires a different design. That's cool. Form should follow function.
r34skyline
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Lol, have I touched a nerve? Humility, perhaps you can learn some of that. If you have something relevant to add, please do so, if all you have is assumptions on who I am, I don't see any point in continuing this meaningless charage. I haven't seen anything that speaks to the contrary of my initial point.
I have several 1911s which will run in any conditions a p30 would.
Most have been through several courses, including one that included grappling in the mud harsh enough that I lost 4 teeth. Do you think I don't know how my 1911s run under hard conditions? When was the last time you took your p30 through a course with a 50% attrition rate?
Just because some people shoot 1911-shaped toys doesn't mean 1911s can't be built as fighting guns.
Are these not the traits of an excellent service/duty/CCW gun as it was designed??? I'm not sure there's much more can be said or done to a pistol to meet or beat those qualities.
MM
r34skyline
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which courses are you refering to? I am more than interested to try them out. Still didn't account for the extra weight and lower ammo capacity.
