Kodiak defence SKS-KD

I use to collect SKS-D , I had 4, I wish I still have them.

there are a few home made copies out there so to avoid those and to ensure im getting a real "D".

I would make sure that :

1. its a Chinese with the correct D serial numbers.
2. wood stock with no filler gap where the duck bill use to be.
3. it had a AK style mag release.
4. it had no milled carrier for quick charge.
5. for no bayo model, incomplete bayo lug and no cut in the stock.
 
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Woodbeef said:
Ok to even muddy the waters a bit more. The original idea for a SKS with a detachable AK47 mag was invented by a gun store in Michigan, Midwest Ordnance. They used an ATI folder for it. The Chinese used this idea for the model 84 and later unnamed model that dealers called the SKS-D. The D was pre-ban in the US. The M and MC-5D were post ban with monte carlo or thumbhole stocks.
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So the Chinese had spy's in Michigan?
 
My wallet is on lockdown but if it wasn't I would order one of these and brag it up a little on CGN. Who knows could be collectable in 20 years and increase in value by $20.
 
fenceline said:
The ATF told the dealer to stop making the conversions apparently. It is believed that the dealer then followed up by working with the Chinese to have the SKS-D manufactured as it began being sold shortly there after.

Lots of info on Chinesesks dot weebly dot com
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So the US government told a US company to stop manufacturing and employing US citizens instead let the Chinese get the work then sell them to the same gun owners in the US and Canada. Wow that makes sense. Our own stupid laws unemployed an entire continent excluding Mexico. We are in a depression but people are getting by maxing out the credit cards. Canada and the USA should be broke by 2020 unless things pick up.
 
Bendeco said:
So the US government told a US company to stop manufacturing and employing US citizens instead let the Chinese get the work then sell them to the same gun owners in the US and Canada. Wow that makes sense. Our own stupid laws unemployed an entire continent excluding Mexico. We are in a depression but people are getting by maxing out the credit cards. Canada and the USA should be broke by 2020 unless things pick up.
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It was just before the 922r legislation came down. Legislation that restricts semi auto rifle and shotguns to no more than 10 imported parts from a list of 20.

From Tapco...

Title 18 Chapter 44 Section 922(r) of the United States Code, defined further by Title 27 Part 478.39 of the Code of Federal Regulation (CFR), ambiguously restricts semiautomatic rifles and shotguns to no more 10 imported parts from a list of 20 parts.



This one section containing a few paragraphs creates far too much confusion. This short synopsis is an attempt to clarify, in simple terms, the 922r regulation. Hopefully this can offer a simple way to evaluate your rifle or shotgun in order to easily assess what you need to do to ensure your rifle is compliant.



When considering compliance the big thing to keep in mind is the magic number 10! The infinite wisdom of the federal government has decided that it is unlawful for your semi-auto rifle or shotgun to have more than 10 imported parts from their select list of 20 parts. Many describe this in terms of U.S. parts count, but in reality this should be the foreign parts count. Now this is where the debate occurs.



27 C.F.R. 478.39 lists 20 parts:


(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings

(2) Barrels

(3) Barrel extensions

(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)

(5) Muzzle attachments

(6) Bolts

(7) Bolt carriers

(8) Operating rods

(9) Gas pistons

(10) Trigger housings

(11) Triggers

(12) Hammers

(13) Sears

(14) Disconnectors

(15) Butt stocks

(16) Pistol grips

(17) Forearms, hand guards

(18) Magazine bodies

(19) Followers

(20) Floorplates



Of these twenty parts, the laws states that you can have NO MORE THAN 10 imported parts on your semi-automatic rifle or shotgun. These twenty parts are meant to cover all platforms, and as you know all platforms are not the same. Without getting into specific platforms, starting out you know that you will not have to change more than 10 parts to ensure your rifle is compliant.



There are arguments like “the SKS does not have a pistol grip so that is not a compliance part for the SKS”. If your SKS has no pistol grip and you choose not to add one, then this is correct. BUT, if you buy an aftermarket stock that contains a pistol grip, you have just added a part that is in the parts list and it will count against you if it is not U.S. made. It does not matter if the platform does not have a covered part normally, it matters what you have on your rifle or shotgun.



A suggestion to ensure compliance and to understand how 922r applies to you is to:

(1) Find out all of the possible parts that apply to YOUR rifle. Below you will find a list of the parts applicable to the FAL, AK, SKS and SAIGA.

(2) Lay your rifle down and start counting. (Unloaded and safe of course)

(3) Go down the list of parts that are applicable to your rifle and find each part on your rifle. Make a check for each item you have that is a foreign part.

(4) When you get to the end, add up all the parts that you have that are foreign. If your foreign parts count adds up to ten or less then you are compliant. If not, you need to start replacing some of those foreign parts until you get down to ten or less foreign parts.



Note: TheGunWiki.com is useful for this, but be aware that the parts count used on that site consider what is standard on the weapon as applicable parts and does not consider certain extra parts, such as a pistol grip. For instance, the SKS list of parts has the Pistol Grip as N/A, but as previously mentioned, if you are adding a pistol grip it will count. Still this is a very helpful tool; just remember to look at ALL the parts to make sure you are not adding something that falls under 922r.



Now it is not always this easy, given the way the BATF may categorize parts. For instance, what is commonly seen as the Operating Rod on the SKS is seen by the BATF as a “piston extension” and does not fall under 992r. Then for some platforms like the Saiga shotguns, what looks like the piston is not. Saiga manuals define their piston for the shotgun versions as the small “puck” in front of the “bolt carrier extension” (which could easily be confused for the piston itself).



Best practice is when in doubt, ASK. Either check with the BATF or with the manufacturer of the part.



Another concern out there is the 3 compliance parts in a U.S. made magazine and if “my rifle is not compliant when I take my mag out”. Once again, think about the nature of the law. It is not the number of U.S. made parts you have; it is the number of foreign parts you have. If you have a U.S. made magazine in your weapon and your weapon is compliant with it in, by removing your magazine you are not ADDING more foreign made parts, so you continue to be compliant. Unless you put a foreign made magazine in, thus adding foreign made parts, you are not making your weapon noncompliant. The same thing applies when you are looking at a part that your weapon may not be equipped with. For instance, an SKS without a pistol grip or threaded barrel, the lack of a muzzle attachment or pistol grip, in essence, yields that part not foreign. Just ensure that if you add either item that you recount your parts again or simply make sure the item you are adding is a U.S. made part.
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These SKS are Russian, modified receiver/mag latch to fit the mag. Stock as described.Refinished to a semi gloss black (carrier too). Bayonet boss is still there (no bayonet). No cleaning rod. Muzzle has been threaded (don't know the pitch). The magazine supplied is an IMI 30/5 polymer standard AK type. They have a full length scope rail installed similar to the Wartak type using the front sight base (sight removed) and a roll pin and replacing the receiver cover latch with two bolts to secure it at the rear.
 
Suther said:
lmfao anyone else notice where it says the SKS is in the "Target" caliber group?

Also, this thread is stupid. It clearly states REMANUFACTURED in the title, which means its not an authentic factory original.
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I think the plastic ATI strike force stock gave it away.
 
I had a few of the "d" model sks rifles years ago. Didn't know they would go up in value this much !! WOW.
 
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I found website with google search. Kodiak added threaded muzzle break and AK magazine.

http://kodiakdefence.com/Products.php

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You have not seen the price of Type 81 yet. I heard from people in Europe that they are selling it for 1800.00 Euro. How much will it be in Canada? This one has the same AK mag pinned to 5 :) Rail system and muzzle break threaded ( I think this future attracts me to have this rifle in my safe) Over all Kodiak is doing what everyone wants when they change rifle from surplus to all the upgrades. Price wise I think if you put all the parts and labor cost that went into building it. You pay less


Cost of SKS (right now, I am sure everyone has seen that prices went up)
Modifying Gun -- ???
AK mag ?? (just try to import one)
Rail system???
Stock ATI ??
Threaded muzzle break ???

I have contacted Kodiak and preorder those 10 pcs to see it.

Click on the link below to preorder it
http://westrifle.com/wrstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=2111
 
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