SCSA Taipan Rifle - .223 Wylde

Ordered one of these in the SIG gray, hopefully it turns out to be decent
Really, REALLY getting sick and tired of having to buy new 223 rifles constantly because those two bit whores POLY and the POS liebrals keep banning all my $hit...
May they all die a slow painful death and rot in hell. I can't believe I just bought a pump action, the hell is this damn country coming too...
 
Got a chance to shoot the Taipain for the first time today. The weather was rainy and windy which for me was a minor factor. At 100yds the rifle shot consistent 1.75” 5 shot groups off a bipod and rear bag. I used 75 and 68 Hornady BTHP match reloads and 55gr Campro reloads. The gun can definitely shoot better but I ran into some initial issues with it not liking a LAR mag (it likes Pmags) and it would not chamber properly from an open bolt. I was having light strikes, failure to ejects where the gun would have to be racked off the table to release. After 50 rounds the gun loosened up and using the pump feature it seems to run smooth now. I had to use the pump to accuracy test and this affected accuracy vs a functioning left side bolt. I think my gun requires more working in to run smooth. Trigger was a long pull which definitely doesn’t help. Overall after the kinks were worked out it became an enjoyable gun. I’d call it a buy for what’s out there but it very well may require a break in to run.
 
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johhny12gauge said:
Got a chance to shoot he Taipain for the first time today. The weather was rainy and windy which for me was a minor factor. At 100yds the rifle shot consistent 1.75” 5 shot groups off a bipod and rear bag. I used 75 and 68 Hornady BTHP match reloads and 55gr Campro reloads. The gun can definitely shoot better but I ran into some initial issues with it not liking a LAR mag (it likes Pmags) and it would not chamber properly from an open bolt. I was having light strikes, failure to ejects where the gun would have to be racked off the table to release. After 50 rounds the gun loosened up and using the pump feature it seems to run smooth now. I had to use the pump to accuracy test and this affected accuracy vs a functioning left side bolt. I think my gun requires more working in to run smooth. Trigger was a long pull which definitely doesn’t help. Overall after the kinks were worked out it became an enjoyable gun. I’d call it a buy for what’s out there but it very well may require a break in to run.
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Mine is SUPER magazine picky.

Not only does it like pmags but only one generation of pmags.

It won’t work with G.I mags. ETS mags won’t fit. Troy mags won’t latch. LAR mags won’t feed.

It basically only works with the magazine it came with.

Taipain, swing and a miss with mag comparability.
 
So far I've only used my LAR 10rd mags and the two of them worked without issue. I didn't try any other mags even the one it came with. Hoping to get my second range day with the Taipan later this week. When I do I will try a couple of different mags and see what happens. I'm making up different 10rd batches of reloads to see what 55gr CamPro load she likes best.
 
Took my SCSA Taipan X to the range again on Sunday. I like the concept of choice of bolt or pump (I also own a Troy PAR and an MRA Renegade straight pull). In total, I have maybe 75-100 rounds through it so far. Accuracy is OK with my handloads (BLC2 with Campro 55gr FMJ). Maybe 1.75-2" five shot groups with a 1-6 LPVO at 6X, 100 yards from a bag. A few things I note:

(i) when you hold the rifle, if you are pulling back even slightly on the pump it goes out of battery and fails to fire. It might be best to hold the firearm just forward of the magazine well.
(ii) mine fed fine with the included 5-round PMag, but didn't like my 10-round Cross Magazines (gen 1). As an aside, my MRA and Troy love the Cross mags - I use them for 3-gun in the USA
(iii) due to the pump I cannot place the rifle in a tripod stand. I should probably get a bipod for it, but the matches I shoot at don't allow bipods to be used for shots less than 200 yards.
(iv) maybe 2 times out of ~50 I get what feels like a stuck empty case in the chamber. I am not strong enough to pull back the pump or the bolt handle - I have to "bang" the fore-end of the pump on something (edge of the shooting bench) to get the bolt to retract. Maybe i need to clean it or oil it. My handloads are on the light end of my reloading manual so I am certain it is not an over pressure issue.

So far, nothing is a deal breaker for me but the Troy PAR solves issues i, ii, and iv, while the Renegade has none of these minor issues. One thing I really like on the Renegade is the ability to have both a left and right bolt handle.

YMMV
 
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Now I have a few hundred rounds through each of these and they seem to be functioning reasonably well. No problems with feeding from Cross mags.

After this "break in" they now feel much smoother in operation and several people shot them with no failures. I like them better than the Troy PAR rifles I had as the non spring assisted Troy seemed to pop out of battery quite easily. I like that they have a straight pull charging handle as well as the pump, as it's easier to operate from prone.

They are pretty compact and they are fun to shoot, which is nice. The butt stock is sturdy and has some adjustment for LOP with spacers and with cheek rest too. But the butt stock is also a bit of a conundrum for me in that I would be just as happy with a AR buffer tube and fitting one of the many Magpul or similar stocks to it. It's almost like they were styling the butt stock as more of a precision or Sig Cross style and then the front of the rifle is a fast handling pump action carbine.

I didn't do any accuracy tests as the Australians have plenty of them all over the internet and some of the results are really good. I'm not happy with the reason I ended up buying these rifles but I don't hate the rifles themselves. When there is an election and we get our semis back I will probably still keep at least one of these rifles and stick a LPVO on it for an offroad and coyote gun.

Time will tell how these rifles work out in the Canadian snow. The Aussies seem to be having pretty good success with them in their heat. (This generation of the Taipan anyway- lots of reports of problems from the introductory offerings)
 
Had the same problems with certain mags and hard extractions as other reporting above. Later Gen PMags and USGI mags drop free and feed well with no issues. Cross and LAR mags get stuck, don’t feed well and had hard extraction issues. Beowulf mags worked ok but did not drop completely free and had to be tapped or pulled out of the magwell.

Took some sandpaper to the cross mags and they seem fine now in the workshop - drop free and feed dummy rounds really well. Will test this week at the range.
 
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Had the same problems with certain mags and hard extractions as other reporting above. Later Gen PMags and USGI mags drop free and feed well with no issues. Cross and LAR mags get stuck, don’t feed well and had hard extraction issues. Beowulf mags worked ok but did not drop completely free and had to be tapped or pulled out of the magwell.

Took some sandpaper to the cross mags and they seem fine now in the workshop - drop free and feed dummy rounds really well. Will test this week at the range.
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If sand paper on the Cross mags helped I wonder if some sand paper on the inside of the mag well would help too? Perhaps the cerakote is a bit thick and needs to be polished up a bit.

Next weekend at the range I will try out a few different mags that I have lying around and maybe polish up the mag wells a bit too.
 
I got my rifle in and did some function tests with some different mags that I have and here is my findings
I just cycled the ammo through I have not fired the rifle yet, used some bulk federal/Remington ammo
Fit and finish seems good to me on it, its nice and light too
MFT 10rd pistol mag feed good
The Gen 3 P mag that it comes with feeds good
A metal C products LAR 15 pistol mag that I have feeds good
Gen 2 P mag wont even fit in the rifle? It slides in but will not latch
Hera mag does the same as the Gen 2 P mag, goes in but will not latch
ASC metal 5 round mag feeds good but is tight to insert and remove
Seems weird that the Gen 2 mag doesn't latch in but the gen 3 does?
Tried one of those BCL 20 round Bison mags and it doesn't even fit but I didn't think it would
 
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Metal ASC pistol mag (not pictured) fits tight but feeds fine.
5 rounds shiny metal (I think maybe Elander mag? No markings on it) works fine
IMI 5 round plastic mag works fine.
MFT mag works fine except first round needs a bit of a harder shove forward to strip off and feed
Cross mags work fine (I've tried about 50 individual Cross mags in them now and all seem to be okay)
Some P mags I have but never use won't even insert. Possibly they are Gen 2?
Gen 3 Pmag work fine.

I have a few hundred rounds through each of these rifles now. They seem to work well enough as long as you are competent running a pump action. No problems in cold weather. They look and feel cool and are fun to shoot. The trigger is less than stellar but not as bad as I read on the internet. The stock has lots of adjustment for both LOP and cheek weld. I hear you can get a folding adapter for the stock which might be a nice feature but unlikely I will bother. The bolt hold open button is not very convenient. The bolt hold back on empty mag but release as soon as the mag is dropped is annoying, I guess the answer is to hold back the slide while you drop the mag and reload.

Would I buy one if not for Trudeau? Maybe, as sort of a compact ranch/truck rifle. I could see how one in .308 or 6.5 CM would be appealing to lots of hunters.
 
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Got out to the range for a brief shooting and decided to test various mags on the Taipan X. First off sorry for the blurred video I ain’t Spielberg and the cell phone fixed on the backpack but oh well. The first two mags are Cross Industries 10rd pistol mags joined together, no issues. The next two mags are DuraMag LAR15 steel 10rd pistol mags, no issues. The next mag is a generic 5/30rd steel mags (I believe it is a CPD but there are no markings on the mag), with this one the first round was a dud-I was just using up 30+ year old Chinese 556mm that I found in the back of the safe, see pic and that 5.00/20rds included tax. The last mag was a 5/10rd Magpul 3rd Gen PMag which came with the Taipan, no issues and it holds open the bolt after the last round. So with these mags I have had no issues with the Taipan X but I have a couple of generic steel 5/30rd mags and two 2 Gen PMags 5/20rd mags that are too tight getting into the mag well so I have not tested them with the Taipan. Not counting the old dud round as an issue with the Taipan so I am sitting at 350rds through the Taipan with zero issues. Can’t wait for the nice weather so I can get a marathon shooting session in with the Taipan.



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83Bourke said:
Just used it all day in a 3 gun match...its great...better action than Troy...worse trigger but reliable shooter.
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I seem to recall that it was made / designed in Australia and does not take AR triggers?

Is that accurate? If so that is a shame.
 
Sniffer said:
I seem to recall that it was made / designed in Australia and does not take AR triggers?

Is that accurate? If so that is a shame.
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No the Taipan X does not use AR style triggers, you would have to drill an additional hole in the body to fit AR triggers. I have read on a couple of forums that Southern Cross Small Arms or some other Australian company is making nicer trigger groups for the Taipan so that is good but you would have to buy from there. I'm already starting to get use to the trigger pull but I may consider getting a nicer trigger later this fall.
 
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No the Taipan X does not use AR style triggers, you would have to drill an additional hole in the body to fit AR triggers. I have read on a couple of forums that Southern Cross Small Arms or some other Australian company is making nicer trigger groups for the Taipan so that is good but you would have to buy from there. I'm already starting to get use to the trigger pull but I may consider getting a nicer trigger later this fall.
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I am pretty picky about triggers and have a LOT of nice options thanks to our Liberal overlords and their propensity for banning things so it is a shame that this rifle cannot accept them.
 
CMS (Canadian Multigun Series) has been sponsored one of these Taipan X rifles, and I like it a lot.
I have taken it to the range and set it up and zeroed it, and am quite liking it due to having both pump (Running & Gunning) and the straight pull is great for bench or Prone shots. It lightweight, but beefy enough to be reliable and good accuracy.

The Trigger is 5-6lbs and that was my first downside, but in actual use the trigger has such a good break that I stopped noticing it.
In the last 3 Gun match I let anyone who wanted to try it, use it.
Top 3 places (1st,2nd & 3rd) were shooters using this gun.
Says something in our fast changing firearms landscape. I think its one of the best rifles available for competition right now.
I shot a Troy Pump before and its way better than that, as its much smoother and does not require brut force like the Troy to cycle.
Highly recommend.
 
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