VZ58: Optics, sights & mounts. update sept

East meets West

OK, so I tried out an optics setup I haven't seen yet, although there are probably a few out there who have something similar. I've included some pics.
Since I have yet to shoot with this setup at the range, my question is: do you think the ejected casings smack into my mount/optic?
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Stevo said:
Yes, absolutely. (see attached pic)

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Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. But how are all you POSP mount/scope guys not getting smacked by the casings? Is the mount just a whisker more to the side so that the casing barely misses it? Any ideas for a deflector to keep the brass from damaging the optic/mount?
 
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Two questions.
1) Were did they get the sun shade for this posp scope.
2) How do you remove the front sight assembely as in this pic so it dosn't interfere with the optic?
3) Also is that the front sight located at the front of the gas cover?
 
Big_Red said:
When was the last time you had someone check your serial number??? It is against the law to alter or remove a serial, not to cover it temporarily.

If it requires inspection just remove the mount and show whoever is needing to see it...

Or if you want to get really stupid phone the CFC and ask for one of those serial number stickers.
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Or, if the mount has to be riveted, have the serial numbers restamped on the mount base. Any good machinist can do that.
PP.
 
Exoce†;3731921 said:
Oh! That rail!
AFAIK, that sucker is the official Czech military one. It's, I think, welded onto the receiver. My impression is that they only outfit a limited number of rifles with it for night-vision and maybe designated marksmen roles.
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Yeah it looks like it actually is a Brugger and Thomet Optics mount, since they appear to make one for the vz58 as seen here.

http://www.brugger-thomet.ch/en/manufacturing/mountingsystems/opticalmounts.php?pid=594

Cant seem to locate the mount though.
 
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I picked up a POSP 4x24 scope for my CZ858-2 Tactical and I have a few questions:

Why does the illuminated reticle always go out of focus? I have adjusted and readjusted the rubber piece for the better part of a weekend to try and make it stay solid but I find the only way to do this is to focus your eyes completely on the reticle and not the target you're shooting at. Is this normal?

Once mounted to the receiver can the scope be taken off without unscrewing the mount? This is going to cover up my serial numbers and I certainly don't want my $1000.00 hunting rifle confiscated and mishandled by the police.

Light illuminates from the front of the scope in the dark. I turned off all the lights and left the scope in the living room and from 40 feet away I could see this big red light. Do all illuminated scopes do this? I was assured this one wouldn't.

It looks like the casings will hit the scope and I've been assured that it won't affect the zero. I've sent this thing back twice now because of misinformation like this, does anyone know if I'm going to need a deflector?
 
Yeah it looks like it actually is a Brugger and Thomet Optics mount, since they appear to make one for the vz58 as seen here.

http://www.brugger-thomet.ch/en/manu...ts.php?pid=594

Cant seem to locate the mount though.
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The basic side rail is part number BT-21797 (wolverine has it listed), but does anyone know what the add-on part of this is called? Is this the BT-21798?

I can only find text descriptions. Wolverine has something called a "QD PICATINNY NVD MOUNT". Is that what is pictured here? I very much like the look of this:

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NiceRice858 said:
I picked up a POSP 4x24 scope for my CZ858-2 Tactical
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Did you buy it new or used? I know that you didn't buy the scope from me. I provide warranty and full support on the scopes I sell. But if you stuck with it and whoever sell it to you not willing to help, PM me and I will try to work something out for you.

and I have a few questions:

Why does the illuminated reticle always go out of focus? I have adjusted and readjusted the rubber piece for the better part of a weekend to try and make it stay solid but I find the only way to do this is to focus your eyes completely on the reticle and not the target you're shooting at. Is this normal?
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No, the reticle should always be sharp.
Rubber eye piece for proper eye relief should be all the way on down to the grove. It doesn't require any adjustments.

Once mounted to the receiver can the scope be taken off without unscrewing the mount? This is going to cover up my serial numbers and I certainly don't want my $1000.00 hunting rifle confiscated and mishandled by the police.
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The scope can be taken off and put back any time without unscrewing the mounting rail and would retain zero. Covered serial number has been discussed in this forum and it's not a problem.

Light illuminates from the front of the scope in the dark. I turned off all the lights and left the scope in the living room and from 40 feet away I could see this big red light. Do all illuminated scopes do this? I was assured this one wouldn't.
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The scope is not for use in the full dark. Illuminated reticle is only for use in the dusk conditions when you still can see the target and it's too dark to see the reticle clearly. But no you should not see the light coming out of scope that far. I will double check it tonight in my living room :D

It looks like the casings will hit the scope and I've been assured that it won't affect the zero. I've sent this thing back twice now because of misinformation like this, does anyone know if I'm going to need a deflector?
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Zero should not be affected. Genuine POSP scopes are tested for 700g impact and should easily withstand hits by empty casings. However, to be on the safe side and protect the scope from scratches and dents the deflector is desirable. But before getting one, try couple shots with scope on and you will see if casings hit the scope and how badly.
 
TeaPot2 said:
No, the reticle should always be sharp.
Rubber eye piece for proper eye relief should be all the way on down to the grove. It doesn't require any adjustments.
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Mine does the same thing .. i have 8x42 from Kalinka, and when that reticle lights up... it is hard to keep focused... now, when you try it out without mounting it on a gun.. it works fine, because you line it up nicely to your eye.
but once mounted hard to focus, as a matter of fact i had problem focusing on that reticle even without the light, during a day... :) could be my eyes.!!. :)
 
Dmitri said:
Mine does the same thing .. i have 8x42 from Kalinka, and when that reticle lights up... it is hard to keep focused... now, when you try it out without mounting it on a gun.. it works fine, because you line it up nicely to your eye.
but once mounted hard to focus, as a matter of fact i had problem focusing on that reticle even without the light, during a day... :) could be my eyes.!!. :)
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I wish I could take a look through your scope... I don't think it's your eyes...If you don't need glasses to read you should see the reticle very clear. If you normally wear glasses then wear them while using scope. If you need a little correction I would suggest to try a scope with adjustable dioptres. Such scopes have letter D in the name, example: POSP8x42D - SVD mount, POSP8x42BD - AK mount...

Anyway, if it's work fine hand held it should work way better mounted to the rifle, unless the mount is attached in the wrong place and you have to twist your neck
 
Dmitri said:
This is how it is attached...(sorry next pic is kinda off topic):
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and my model is "D".. do you mind telling me how can i ajust the diopt.....
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It seems a bit too high... but proper place is very individual, depends on the shooter's size...before drilling I would bench rest the rifle and play with scope to find most comfortable position.

fold the rubber corner forward and while looking through the scope rotate back part of the scope (applicable D models only) until you see all clear :D

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Heres the Burris Fast Fire on an NEA rail.

Can't mount it further back because the height of the rail is less than the rest of the handguard....

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I'm guessing if I wasn't using the winged mounting bracket it would sit low enough to co-witness the iron sights. Looks like it's about an 1/8th of an inch to high right now.

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