Anyone bought a new Savage lately?
- Thread starter Fassteel
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I have a $900 + Browning and 6 centrefire Savages ranging from $500 - $1400. My conclusion is the Browning is a beautiful looking rifle. That's as far as I can go. It is not a sub MOA rifle. It left me rifleless while out hunting when the cheap white metal alumnacrap floorplate broke. And a replacement cost more than I would ever pay for another Browning. It is a nice looking safe queen though. But I buy rifles to use them. Oh, I almost forgot. The fancy high gloss finished walnut stock warped big-time pressing on the barrel and making it a minute of barn door rifle. So my personal experience makes me give quality, accuracy, reliability, and value to Savage. I also have a uncle and a couple buddy's and had a grandfather that all shoot Browning. Accuracy isn't their strong point.
I own an x-bolt, I bought a browning to hunt with, not to be pretty, the stalker xbolt can not have any of the flaws you speak of. And if you are busting floor plates, almost any make with leave you rifle less.
Ask most any experience shooter and you will find out Brownings are at least as accurate as any other rifle out there, I never cared for them myself until the xbolt came out, but I never blamed my lack of ability on the maker.
Ask most any experience shooter and you will find out Brownings are at least as accurate as any other rifle out there, I never cared for them myself until the xbolt came out, but I never blamed my lack of ability on the maker.
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- Central Sask
My savages don't have floor plates. And if Browning made theirs out of steel, it wouldn't break when it's -30. This a-bolt medallion was bought to hunt with too. But it failed. Please tell us about your personal savage failures
Hey, I never said anything about having savage failures did I, I was speaking to the fact that browning actually makes a decent rifle, and IMHO is a much better rifle than savage, at any price. Yes I own both before that card is played. And btw, as I have said before, I never liked Browning either. But the fact is that only an open mind is willing to change and see things for what they are. Savages are very accurate, I have said that over and over here in many threads, it is their complete lack of fit and finish that disgusts me. Magazines that are a PITA to insert or remove, horribly unfinished bolts/chambers, stocks but like clubs, etc... I would gladly pay more for a savage if they would produce a quality rifle, but they won't as their intended market is not for people that care about quality.
It doesn't take long to see what most people think about today's Browning rifles if you surf these forums for a while, just try and listen to those that aren't fanboys of a specific brand. Brownings are not my favourite, I am just stating they are good rifles.
It doesn't take long to see what most people think about today's Browning rifles if you surf these forums for a while, just try and listen to those that aren't fanboys of a specific brand. Brownings are not my favourite, I am just stating they are good rifles.
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- Central Sask
Yes. And this open mind switched from Browning to savage because in my opinion, they are a better rifle. Is it fact ? Hell no ! It's an opinion based on a lot of time I have spent with both brands of rifle.
Two years ago, I bought a Savage Model 12 BTCSS in cal. 22-250, from Epps. I mounted a Mueller 8-25 X 50 scope on it (definately NOT a state of the art scope!) and in the course of developing a load for the rifle, I fired 28 groups at 100 yds from the bench, over sand bags. The largest group was .958" and the smallest was .181" with an avarage group size of .561" out of the box! The group size was arrived at by measuring outside to outside of the group with a pr. of verniers and deducting the bullet diameter, in this case .224" Hardly "garbage" in my world!
I also have a much loved, old Remington 700 HB Varminter, same caliber, that will ALMOST do as well, but this rifle has a floating barrel, 'glass bedded action, don't know about the trigger, (light & crisp) as I bought it used from Hallam's on Younge St in Tronto some 35 years ago, for $160.
Just sayin'
Mike
I love my Savage 111 in 300 Win Mag, but it's a few years old. I don't know about the finish of the new rifles, but mine is well done for a $400 rifle. Anyone who generalizes them as "garbage" doesn't know what they are talking about, and it's all just opinion anyway. Besides, anything anyone says on the internet is true, didn't you know that?
ALBERTA BOY
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- Edmonton, AB
Yep. They can be super accurate. They will never escape their design or fit and finish. They're cheap garbage for people with low standards who will take any pipe strapped to a 2x4 that can shoot under an inch.
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- Central Sask
I will take one over a fake weatherby anyday. Even if you do claim you have 6 that will shoot under an inch at 300 yards. That claim right there tells me what your opinions are worth.
ALBERTA BOY
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- Edmonton, AB
You're entitled to your opinion but I can and do make those shots. It's not even very difficult from a good rest. Why don't you message the member "furry" here? He's witnessed it more than once.
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- Central Sask
make the shot? or pull off consistant groups? Big difference. And if you claim all 6 imitation weatherbys shoot consistanly under 1 inch groups at 300... I will stick with my opinion of you
I have a model 16 stainless in 325 WSM which I traded for a scope. It shoots alright for what its worth. There are better rifles out there but they cost more, and this is accurate enough for me . I prefer my A-bolt to this action, the tikka is nice nice too once you replace the bolt cap, and buy all the other aftermarket parts to improve it, mind you its still got a stock that feels like a toy.
And if someone says owning a savage makes me an idiot, I figure folks would probably find them to be a big mouthed a-hole know it all rooster-sucker.
Just my opinion though.
Start your own thread.
And if someone says owning a savage makes me an idiot, I figure folks would probably find them to be a big mouthed a-hole know it all rooster-sucker.
Just my opinion though.
Start your own thread.
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Don't worry, your opinion is shared, and probably by a fair number of people. I own 5 Savages and only had a minor issue with one that I bought used, a Model 93, and it took 20 minutes to fix it and it will shoot 1 inch groups or less at 100 yards all day and functions flawlessly. It is definately one of my most favourite that I will not sell. I will not hesitate to buy another Savage.
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- Central Sask
Best opinion I have read in a long time.
I purchased a used axis in stainless chambered in 30-06 and with a little time hand loading have produced 3 shot .5" groups at 100 yards, all it cost me was $260 plus the cost of ammo!
Savage has been recognized by real authorities in shooting as producing some of the most accurate and least costly rifles ever manufactured by anyone! Cheap garbage... only your opinion!!! Not many people can afford to spend thousands of dollars on a rifle to compensate for inadequate shooting, for those people Savage is the answer. Screw your one witness for the millions of satisfied Savage owners!
Savage has been recognized by real authorities in shooting as producing some of the most accurate and least costly rifles ever manufactured by anyone! Cheap garbage... only your opinion!!! Not many people can afford to spend thousands of dollars on a rifle to compensate for inadequate shooting, for those people Savage is the answer. Screw your one witness for the millions of satisfied Savage owners!
"As previous stated, I have 6 Weatherby Vanguards and all shoot sub-moa. They all love nosler bullets and will put them into 1" or less at 300 yards from a leadsled. No bull. - Albertaboy" - To quote the most prolific shooter in Alberta which nobody has ever heard of!
Yuk Yuk---
Wait, wait - he wrote "no bull". That mean's it's gotta be true! That means we need to BELIEVE folks, for this HAS to be the gospel TRUTH! ^ Weatherby's - 6 sub-moa shooters, at less than an inch at 300 yards no less!
You do know the meaning of MOA and it's relationship to yardage...right? Or did you just skip over those chapters in math class? Speaking of math...you had six Savages...and now you have 6 Weatherby's, does that mean Weatherby's are your new most favorite-est rifles in the whole wide world?
Yuk Yuk---
Wait, wait - he wrote "no bull". That mean's it's gotta be true! That means we need to BELIEVE folks, for this HAS to be the gospel TRUTH!
^ Weatherby's - 6 sub-moa shooters, at less than an inch at 300 yards no less!You do know the meaning of MOA and it's relationship to yardage...right? Or did you just skip over those chapters in math class? Speaking of math...you had six Savages...and now you have 6 Weatherby's, does that mean Weatherby's are your new most favorite-est rifles in the whole wide world?
ALBERTA BOY
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- Edmonton, AB
Yes, I understand. That makes them 1/3 MOA shooters. They all are with the appropriately worked up hand load. With factory ammo, they're about 1 MOA which they are guaranteed to be. Obviously this is from a cold barrel.
No weatherbys are not my absolute favorite rifles. I tend to keep a few different brands. No more Savage though. They are the absolute bottom barrel garbage available for purchase anywhere.
Re: Savage accuracy, I think some of mine were pretty accurate. I couldn't comment on the others - they were so defective as to be unshootable.
No weatherbys are not my absolute favorite rifles. I tend to keep a few different brands. No more Savage though. They are the absolute bottom barrel garbage available for purchase anywhere.
Re: Savage accuracy, I think some of mine were pretty accurate. I couldn't comment on the others - they were so defective as to be unshootable.
07blackwater
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- Port Coquitlam, BC
ALBERTA BOY, I read your first few Savage rants on this thread. When I have more time I'll read the rest because you seem to know what you're talking about.
That said my first savage was a 116fcss 7mm mag. The thing is great with cheapo federal blues, better than my dad's 700 and my 760. I also bought a .22 BTVS to keep me busy when the big gun is cooling down at the range or general plinking.
What I've found is it the savage doesn't feel as nice, look as nice, cycle as nice but it sure shoots good for what I'm using it for. I don't care that it doesn't have a fake wood looking monte carlo or a 'slick as butter' throw on the bolt, it fills the freezer.
You know what's funny is lately I've been thinking about building a nice 6.5 for deer hunting based on a cz or sako but then I thought screw it, to me it's a tool. I don't want to worry about scratching it, I just want an accurate gun I haven't paid so much for I have to baby.
BTW, I haven't had any issues with either of mine and I'm thinking of getting another.
That said my first savage was a 116fcss 7mm mag. The thing is great with cheapo federal blues, better than my dad's 700 and my 760. I also bought a .22 BTVS to keep me busy when the big gun is cooling down at the range or general plinking.
What I've found is it the savage doesn't feel as nice, look as nice, cycle as nice but it sure shoots good for what I'm using it for. I don't care that it doesn't have a fake wood looking monte carlo or a 'slick as butter' throw on the bolt, it fills the freezer.
You know what's funny is lately I've been thinking about building a nice 6.5 for deer hunting based on a cz or sako but then I thought screw it, to me it's a tool. I don't want to worry about scratching it, I just want an accurate gun I haven't paid so much for I have to baby.
BTW, I haven't had any issues with either of mine and I'm thinking of getting another.
