Got a bottle today from Home Hardware
1022 Tommy Gun Kit
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Got a bottle today from Home Hardware
Ar180shooter
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- Ottawa, ON
Use linseed oil, Canadian tire should have lots.
For several years now, I have been using Ballistol on my guns, and have been very pleased with its performance -
http://www.ballistol.ca/Ballistol/Pages/Ballistol_Products.htm
Apparently it was developed in 1904 as an all-purpose lubricant and protectant for guns and equipment for the Imperial German army - works well on metal, wood, leather, etc. ..... Here's a rather long and detailed page of information about it - http://www.ballistol.ca/Ballistol/Pages/Ballistol_Index01.htm
http://www.ballistol.ca/Ballistol/Pages/Ballistol_Products.htm
Apparently it was developed in 1904 as an all-purpose lubricant and protectant for guns and equipment for the Imperial German army - works well on metal, wood, leather, etc. ..... Here's a rather long and detailed page of information about it - http://www.ballistol.ca/Ballistol/Pages/Ballistol_Index01.htm
Yes there is. You use the rear sight on the 1022's barrel. The only model of 1022 that doesn't work with this system is the compact model as it has a different sight then all of the other 1022 models. In that case you will need to order a rear sight from Ruger or from their Canadian distributor which is in Montreal I think. Its on Rugers web site. Or place a WTB on the EE. I'm sure somebody would have a spare for real cheap.
Now back to your barrel. You need to carefully drift the rear sight off of the barrel to either the left or the right. It doesn't really matter. It should slide out with the appropriate amount of force. Use a punch and a hammer and gently tap it too the side. You can also use a small wooden dowel so you don't mark the barrel in case you slip. That would be my choice. Once its removed, then just drop it into the channel inside the Thompson rear sight cover and screw it in place with the button head screws which will be on each side of the sight. Centre it and then go sight it in.
If that rear sight really doesn't want to come off, I would use a propane torch and heat the barrel in that location, not to red hot or anything but so its uncomfortable to touch. That should be enough heat just in case there is Loctite in the dovetail.
John
Its kind of on hold for the moment as I was getting involved in too many projects at the same time.
I hope to start work on it again after Xmas or mid Jan. but it may take longer then that. Just have to see how everything goes.So in the mean time buy lots of Thompson kits and that 'll get my motivation up.
Even better, spread the word on as many gun forms as possible just to increase exposure. There are so many shooters out there who would love a kit like this but they just don't know that there is anything like this available.John
handgunner
CGN Regular
- Location
- Southern Ontario
Just curious (and sorry if it has been covered in this or other threads), but has the kit been sold in the US at all? If so, what reaction has the kit received south of the border? I'm hoping it has been sold in numbers and demand is high. I have one and continue to be very impressed with the fit and finish of the parts.
Thank you Handgunner. Its always nice to hear ones work is appreciated.
I honestly don't know if any kits have been shipped across the border as Fabsports is handling the retail part of this effort and Fabrice hasn't mentioned whether we've had any American orders yet. There is no reason I can think of that would prohibit them from crossing the border as I don't believe they (the U.S. gov.) restrict imports like they do exports to us. But who knows in this mixed up world.
handgunner
CGN Regular
- Location
- Southern Ontario
I had a chance to obtain a "fun-gun" kit from a family member in the U.S. but deliberately held off for your kit and don't regret the wait. I'm eager to hear more about the MP-5 venture and hope you will mass produce that one too once it has been developed.
Can never have too many 10/22's
Can never have too many 10/22's
I have been experimenting with the sights on mine, I think this is the setup I'm going to go with.
Williams .570 x .340 Front sight
Williams WGRS-KN Guide Receiver Peep Sight Modern Muzzleloading MK-85 and SavageM-110 Flat Rear
Currently I added some jb weld to the front sight to bring it up to .570 high and installed a make shift peep at the rear it shoots about 2" low at 15m. it should be just about right to zero at 75m.
Williams .570 x .340 Front sight
Williams WGRS-KN Guide Receiver Peep Sight Modern Muzzleloading MK-85 and SavageM-110 Flat Rear
Currently I added some jb weld to the front sight to bring it up to .570 high and installed a make shift peep at the rear it shoots about 2" low at 15m. it should be just about right to zero at 75m.
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I have been experimenting with the sights on mine, I think this is the setup I'm going to go with.
Williams .570 x .340 Front sight
Williams WGRS-KN Guide Receiver Peep Sight Modern Muzzleloading MK-85 and SavageM-110 Flat Rear
Currently I added some jb weld to the front sight to bring it up to .570 high and installed a make shift peep at the rear it shoots about 2" low at 15m. it should be just about right to zero at 75m.
Jason, I was just wondering why you didn't use the sight system that the Thompson Kit was set up for.
With regards to a peep, I would want to have a large viewing area with any sight on the Thompson more so to facilitate fast target acquisition than anything else. Some original sights just consisted of this:
This one is certainly the exception:
And remember that, for the most part, it was a spray and pray gun. It was however, still very accurate at short distances and it could hold it's own against an M1A Carbine in single shot mode but the factory sight system never allowed it realize it's full potential.
John
Thanks for those photos John!
In answer to your question, 1. I broke the factory sights drifting them out of the barrel, 2. I really don't like buckhorn open sights.
I am going to need a new rear sight anyway and since I cant mount a pict rail on the receiver (well I could but that would totally destroy the look) and put optics on it. Though I expect if the US army had acogs in 1942 they would have been on their battle weapons. I will go with a peep sight, I agree that quick target acquisition is important and by removing the aperture from the williams rear sight you are effectively left with a ghost ring plus you have the ability to put say a 0.05 aperture in there for "precision" work. Last night I had multiple rounds touching at 20m (indoors) with this makeshift setup I'm using. That's just as good as any of my other .22s are capable of.
In answer to your question, 1. I broke the factory sights drifting them out of the barrel, 2. I really don't like buckhorn open sights.
I am going to need a new rear sight anyway and since I cant mount a pict rail on the receiver (well I could but that would totally destroy the look) and put optics on it. Though I expect if the US army had acogs in 1942 they would have been on their battle weapons. I will go with a peep sight, I agree that quick target acquisition is important and by removing the aperture from the williams rear sight you are effectively left with a ghost ring plus you have the ability to put say a 0.05 aperture in there for "precision" work. Last night I had multiple rounds touching at 20m (indoors) with this makeshift setup I'm using. That's just as good as any of my other .22s are capable of.
Well Jason, it looks like you have everything under control.
There is one thing however that I would like to get some input on. The top of the reciever is drilled and tapped for the standard Ruger scope rail or any other piccatinny rail for that matter. I know adding a rail and some kind of optics would destroy the looks of the Thompson so I have been thinking of eliminating it all together. Can I get some feedback from everyone on this.
Unless the deletion would introduce a substantial price drop, I'd leave the holes in place, for those times when you 'absolutely, positively, have to smoke that gopher @ 50...'
Anything except an iteration of one of these ht tp://world.guns.ru/smg/smg29-e.htm would destroy the investment in the kit...IMHO..
I don't have a kit yet, but plan on it in the near future.. this kit is just to good to pass up(any chance the use of a crush washer on the compensator would make the 'real deal' front blade a non starter...?)
Anything except an iteration of one of these ht tp://world.guns.ru/smg/smg29-e.htm would destroy the investment in the kit...IMHO..
I don't have a kit yet, but plan on it in the near future.. this kit is just to good to pass up(any chance the use of a crush washer on the compensator would make the 'real deal' front blade a non starter...?)
No. there wouldn't be any cost savings for me or the customer. I was looking at it more from the point of authenticity. That's all. Every little thing I can do to make it more authentic is always a plus.
With respect to the washer/comp, I'm not sure what you're getting at Doc.
Can you be a little more descriptive for this old guy.Thanks
John
