375 Ruger

[Buckmastr]

got my new king all put together, ready for bear. I think I will use the 300gr Nosler Partition this spring

Man that's nice.

 

[buckbrushoutdoors]

are those medium rings Todd? look like warne?

 

[todbartell]

Is that nitron blackening?

Black graphite cerakote

are those medium rings Todd? look like warne?

Medium Warne QD

 

[chuck nelson]

So where are all the bears shot with the new king this spring?

 

[medvedqc]

too early for us. and not as green for sure ....

 

[todbartell]

is that a Mossberg Patriot 375?

 

[chuck nelson]

That is a custom built Model 70. Not 375.

 

[Gatehouse]

got my new king all put together, ready for bear. I think I will use the 300gr Nosler Partition this spring

Looking good!

Bears beware!

 

[todbartell]

Got the new rifle on paper tonight, shoots real nice with the 250gr GMX factory load

A couple @ 100y.

Some Labradar doppler results with the 250gr GMX & 270gr Interlock factory loads from the 19.6" barrel :

250gr GMX

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[TR]
[TD]Stats - Average[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2743.7[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Highest[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2751.13[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Lowest[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2737.58[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Ext. Spread[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13.55[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Std. Dev[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.84[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Shot ID[/TD]
[TD]V0[/TD]
[TD]V50[/TD]
[TD]V100[/TD]
[TD]V150[/TD]
[TD]V200[/TD]
[TD]V250[/TD]
[TD]Ke0[/TD]
[TD]Ke50[/TD]
[TD]Ke100[/TD]
[TD]Ke150[/TD]
[TD]Ke200[/TD]
[TD]Ke250[/TD]
[TD]PF50[/TD]
[TD]Proj. Weight[/TD]
[TD]Date[/TD]
[TD]Time[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2738[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2647[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4159[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3887[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]661.75[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:52:51[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2751[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2651[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2559[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2559[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4199[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3901[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3634[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3634[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]662.75[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:56:37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2742[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2653[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4173[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3906[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]663.25[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:56:57[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2742[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2653[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4171[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3905[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]663.25[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:57:20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2739[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2650[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2557[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4163[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3896[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3628[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]662.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21:02:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2751[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2658[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4200[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3921[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]664.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21:02:54[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

270gr Interlock

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[TR]
[TD]Stats - Average[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2703.75[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Highest[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2716.75[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Lowest[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2687.11[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Ext. Spread[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29.64[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stats - Std. Dev[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.95[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Shot ID[/TD]
[TD]V0[/TD]
[TD]V50[/TD]
[TD]V100[/TD]
[TD]V150[/TD]
[TD]V200[/TD]
[TD]V250[/TD]
[TD]Ke0[/TD]
[TD]Ke50[/TD]
[TD]Ke100[/TD]
[TD]Ke150[/TD]
[TD]Ke200[/TD]
[TD]Ke250[/TD]
[TD]PF50[/TD]
[TD]Proj. Weight[/TD]
[TD]Date[/TD]
[TD]Time[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2687[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2574[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4328[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3972[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]694.98[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]270[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:40:19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2708[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2594[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4396[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4032[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]700.38[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]270[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:41:21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2706[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2591[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2481[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4388[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4023[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3690[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]699.57[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]270[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:44:19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2701[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2589[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4372[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4017[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]699.03[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]270[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:46:54[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2717[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2602[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4424[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4059[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]702.54[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]270[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5/11/17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20:48:34[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[suits me]

https://youtu.be/O-kzNDiV4EU
https://youtu.be/-hZl5tNMDY4
375 ruger shooting 250 grain a frame at 2840 on blue wildebeest.

 

[todbartell]

 

[suits me]

The audible smack of the bullet strike was very gratifying.

 

[Northern5]

got my new king all put together, ready for bear. I think I will use the 300gr Nosler Partition this spring

That is a really nice looking gun man!


I'm eyeballing a 375 ruger in M77 Alaskan right now.

Those mauser style CRF actions are bulletproof.

 

[Northern5]

Who wouldn't want time proven performance from the obsolete .375 H&H in 24" barrel, but housed in a more compact, 20" barrel rifle, using a modern case? The obsolete 375 H&H has great performance, the NEW KING simply does everything better in all areas except for nostalgia. If nostalgia is your thing, the H&H is your huckleberry.

If the 375 ruger is the NEW KING of 375's, what would we call the 378 weatherby?

378 Weatherby
270 Grain Spire Point
0.380 B.C.
3180 FPS Muzzle Velocity
6062 Ft lbs of energy at the muzzle

That has superior ballistics than the 375 Ruger...

I don't think anyone can add or take away from the 375 H&H, 375 Ruger or 378 Weatherby, but one must remember that the H&H although the slowest and least powerful of the 3 cartridges I named, has also been around the longest. If any other 375 class cartridge is going to be "better" or "more popular" or be called the "new king" it will have to be around for over 100 years to prove it.

For the record, I think it the 375 ruger is a damn fine cartridge, but the cartridge means nothing if we cant place the bullet where it needs to go.

LOL

 

[Northern5]

 

[Northern5]

375 Ruger VS giraffe

 

[Gatehouse]

If the 375 ruger is the NEW KING of 375's, what would we call the 378 weatherby?

L

We would call the 378 WBY what it is- a proprietary cartridge that is fairly unpopular compared to the 375 Ruger.

The fact that the 378 r the 375 RUM or any other cartridge is faster than the 375 Ruger or H&H doesn't a KING make. To be the NEW KING you must be properly balanced, popular and an upgrade to the old, obsolete king, the H&H.

If velocity was the only requirement, something like the the 375 Cheytac would be on top.

 

[Northern5]

We would call the 378 WBY what it is- a proprietary cartridge that is fairly unpopular compared to the 375 Ruger.

The fact that the 378 r the 375 RUM or any other cartridge is faster than the 375 Ruger or H&H doesn't a KING make. To be the NEW KING you must be properly balanced, popular and an upgrade to the old, obsolete king, the H&H.

If velocity was the only requirement, something like the the 375 Cheytac would be on top.

I guess we'll find out in another 90 + years eh Gatehouse? lol

If velocity has nothing to do with being the new king, and popularity and balance does, then wouldn't the H&H still be the king? The 378 weatherby was an upgrade to the H&H over 50 years ago...Both in velocity and balance.

Not being sarcastic at all, but what part of the H&H is unbalanced? Just the cartridge itself? I agree that the taper is an old school design...One that was needed at the time (1916) due to the fact that the 375H&H used cordite as propellant upon its initial conception.

I would also agree that the 375 Ruger's case design makes better use of modern powders, but the 375 rugers ammunition isn't as popular all over the world, unlike the 375 H&H. Additionally, the 375 H&H is offered in more rifle platforms, by more rifle manufacturers all over the world than the 375 Ruger is....

So based on what your saying, the H&H is still number 1. It has been killing game all over the world for over 100 years.

In another 90 + years, you may be right brother. The 375 ruger might just be the new king.

 

[Gatehouse]

I guess we'll find out in another 90 + years eh Gatehouse? lol

If velocity has nothing to do with being the new king, and popularity and balance does, then wouldn't the H&H still be the king? The 378 weatherby was an upgrade to the H&H over 50 years ago...Both in velocity and balance.

Not being sarcastic at all, but what part of the H&H is unbalanced? Just the cartridge itself? I agree that the taper is an old school design...One that was needed at the time (1916) due to the fact that the 375H&H used cordite as propellant upon its initial conception.

I would also agree that the 375 Ruger's case design makes better use of modern powders, but the 375 rugers ammunition isn't as popular all over the world, unlike the 375 H&H. Additionally, the 375 H&H is offered in more rifle platforms, by more rifle manufacturers all over the world than the 375 Ruger is....

So based on what your saying, the H&H is still number 1. It has been killing game all over the world for over 100 years.

In another 90 + years, you may be right brother. The 375 ruger might just be the new king.

You shoudl read this thread. All your questions have been answered in this thread...Probably multiple times.

 

[Northern5]

You shoudl read this thread. All your questions have been answered in this thread...Probably multiple times.

I did read this whole thread. It's awesome and there is a lot of information in it.