Clip magazine or Hinged floor plate?

Gatehouse said:
You can get around that in a number of different ways. Use a sling with shell loops, a cartridge pouch on your belt, a belt with cartridge loops, a buttstock shell holder..etc etc..
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Also, I took one of those elastic cartridge holders and cut it in 2 sections. Sewed each piece to the inside of the pocket on a couple of my hunting jackets. Each one holds 4 rounds...
 
After speaking with Mike ay Tactical Operations I have a better understabnding of why so many manufactuers use the floorplate magazine or blind magazine.
According to Mike going with a detachable magazine allows more receiver flex. This in turn can lead to decreased accuracy.
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A hinge or detach magazine will give the same strength. Both have weakened the area near the action. A blind mag give the stock full rigidity. You never see a hinge or detach mag on a bench gun.
 
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I have a Lee Enfield as a cabin gun specifically because of the detachable magazine. Gotta go up to the water source? click; loaded.
Get back to the house? click; unloaded (plus PROVE of course)

If you go to any big IPSC match you will see 120 shooters doing about 20-25 mag changes each, or 3000 mag changes. Except for maybe one newbie once in a great while, they all stay in, during rapid movement & changes of direction.

How is it that the pistol guys can get their mags to stay in the gun but hunting rifles seem to "drop" their magazines?
 
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ipscgraz said:
I have a Lee Enfield as a cabin gun specifically because of the detachable magazine. Gotta go up to the water source? click; loaded.
Get back to the house? click; unloaded (plus PROVE of course)
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In that situation, I'd just leave the rifle with a loaded magazine and empty chamber.

If you go to any big IPSC match you will see 120 shooters doing about 20-25 mag changes each, or 3000 mag changes. Except for maybe one newbie once in a great while, they all stay in, during rapid movement & changes of direction.

How is it that the pistol guys can get their mags to stay in the gun but hunting rifles seem to "drop" their magazines?
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Practice. It's something most hunters lack.;):p
 
scott_r said:
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You do realize that MOA at 500 yards is 5".With proper load development,and a good rifle,it isn't a big deal.

A hinge or detach magazine will give the same strength. Both have weakened the area near the action. A blind mag give the stock full rigidity. You never see a hinge or detach mag on a bench gun.
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A serious bench rifle does not even have a magazine cutout.
 
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After speaking with Mike ay Tactical Operations I have a better understabnding of why so many manufactuers use the floorplate magazine or blind magazine.
According to Mike going with a detachable magazine allows more receiver flex. This in turn can lead to decreased accuracy.
Being that this information is comming from a man who builds .25moa accuracy gurantee there must be some truth to this information.
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Have you ever heard of Terry Cross?

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek046.html

Notice the detachable magazine?
 
John Y Cannuck said:
When we are doing drives, deer hunting, we move locations every couple of hours. For that style of hunting, the magazine rifle is king.
For days when we sit on a stand, the floor plate makes a nice trim rifle, with fewer chances for something to go wrong. Remember that every time you dump the cartridges from the rifle, you also dump any crud that you might have got in there. Not so with a detachable magazine.

I have both systems, and I really don't have a big issue with either.
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Couldn't have put it better. I also hunt the same way in Ontario bushland. We usually move three times in the morning with dogs driving the deer. There is no time to drop and fumble with your rounds when your ride is waiting.
For still hunting and long walks or sitting all day at a stand, the hinged floorplate is king. The smoother the rifle without bumps the better.
 
I have blind, hinged, DM and the Browning combo. The A-bolt system is the only way to go...best of both worlds with the best fit and finish on a $1000 gun.
 
stubblejumper said:
To those people that can't keep track of their detachable magazines,how do you ever keep track of your license,your knife,your truck keys etc?Are your mitts tied together with a string that runs through your coat sleeves?Losing a detachable mag is the worst excuse that I have ever heard for not wanting one.
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Agreed!

We hear this lame excuse all the time, and I wonder the same thing.
 
I have both systems (DM and hinged floorplate) and I personally prefer the DM. I have never lost a mag but then again I double check everything BEFORE heading into the bush so maybe me not being careless is why I have never had issues with a DM.
Also too, it has happened that after we have trudged out of the bush and are leaving the hunt area (by vehicle), that this is the time our quarry presents itself.
A quick reload with a DM gains you those extra couple of seconds which is all we need to complete a successful hunt. This doesn't happen very often mind you but only once is all it takes to be thankful for a DM.
Either system has it's merits but personally a DM has been kinder to me so I guess it's to each his own.
 
bought my 30-06 700DM a couple years back, no complaints with it slamming into place, one light smack and she's in. gotta work to get it out, its not coming without you wanting to make'er come
 
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