Colt Canada C8 versus Everybody Else!
- Thread starter Thomas D'Arcy McGee
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Thomas D'Arcy McGee
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Hi fellows,
Did not expect such a large response, thank you!
When I was in we used the FNC1A1 iron sights only, we did not have the C7 and C8.
Question 1: can you leave the front and rear iron sights on the civilian version when a scope is added? In other words, can I have both sighting systems installed at the same time on the firearm? It would make sense to me to have both in case the scope no longer works and you can use the iron sights as a backup system.
Question 2: where are you fellows getting the price list for the C7 and C8, I keep reading references to over priced! Is this information posted on the Internet someplace?
In regard to my OP, I figured someone would have stated the AR-15 Barrett is better! So far, I have not heard anyone state definitively that someone is making an AR-15 variant that is better than Colt Canada's C8 and C7! That helps my confidence level to make a purchase
Best regards,
TDM
Did not expect such a large response, thank you!
When I was in we used the FNC1A1 iron sights only, we did not have the C7 and C8.
Question 1: can you leave the front and rear iron sights on the civilian version when a scope is added? In other words, can I have both sighting systems installed at the same time on the firearm? It would make sense to me to have both in case the scope no longer works and you can use the iron sights as a backup system.
Question 2: where are you fellows getting the price list for the C7 and C8, I keep reading references to over priced! Is this information posted on the Internet someplace?
In regard to my OP, I figured someone would have stated the AR-15 Barrett is better! So far, I have not heard anyone state definitively that someone is making an AR-15 variant that is better than Colt Canada's C8 and C7! That helps my confidence level to make a purchase
Best regards,
TDM
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Everyone builds a good AR these days. If you have to have a Colt I can understand that. Some people insist it isn't a motorcycle unless it is a Harley Davidson too. Far as I'm concerned though - it is on par with guys like STAG, Bushmaster, etc.
The cool kids I see seem to be saying that if you have to have the absolute best AR out there, it is made by a company called LWRC. If I understand the company correctly the bulk of the costs are for some exotic materials of construction and extensive QA/QC. I suppose a gun like that would make sense to the Navy SEAL that IS going into the brown stuff, and WILL be shooting his way out of it, possibly under the worst conditions possible. For range work, gophers and targets I can get by with a good quality gun. You can't go wrong if you stick to the mainstream high end vendors and you can get it in any configuration you want. Personally, I would not get hung up on Colt myself.
The cool kids I see seem to be saying that if you have to have the absolute best AR out there, it is made by a company called LWRC. If I understand the company correctly the bulk of the costs are for some exotic materials of construction and extensive QA/QC. I suppose a gun like that would make sense to the Navy SEAL that IS going into the brown stuff, and WILL be shooting his way out of it, possibly under the worst conditions possible. For range work, gophers and targets I can get by with a good quality gun. You can't go wrong if you stick to the mainstream high end vendors and you can get it in any configuration you want. Personally, I would not get hung up on Colt myself.
And literally everyone (including us gun plumbers) removes them from C7s and C8s (at least in Valcartier).
If you guys are talking about CF C8s, we never had C8A2s. They were never bought and were never in the system - ever. They are different rifles with different barrels. We've had the C8FTHBs (with the black furniture and no ambidextrous controls) and C8A3s (with the green furniture and the ambidextrous controls of the C7A2).
And yup the top rails on the receivers of the CF rifles sit higher than regular AR-15 top rails. I think this is also true for H&K 416s. This is why A.R.M.S. makes a flip-up rear sight especially for C7s and C8s. If you bought a commercial flip-up rear sight you'd find out that they sit higher than the front sight. From what I saw, judging by pictures only, the rails on the civilian models are the standard AR-15 height and should be fine.
Just stating the fact to Aries that even back in 2006 they came with them.
Man our M203 is a monstrosity.
I had both my SA20 and SA15.7 out to the 300 meter Swiss range this past weekend. Iron sights on the rifle and ELCAN on the 15.7. Shooting Swiss GP90 (62 Gr.) and M855, both shot exceptionally well. We spent more time shooting the 15.7 and it placed 99% rounds inside 10 ring of a Swiss military target at 300 meters (10 cm circle) using service ammo. The SA20 placed about 95% of the rounds into the same target with iron sights. They seem to be extremely accurate for an off-the-shelf service type rifle/carbine.
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A back up system in case you're fighting Russians? (there, I said it!
)Having back up sights on AR15s seem all the rage on the range but if I was blasting off 5-round magazines on a gun club shooting range and my expensive scope broke I'd probably be too busy crying to transition to my back -up sights.
Was works.
<-retired Infantry here.
I only had mag related issues with it. Had brand new mags out of the box and seemed that caused a few jams.
I wouldn't jump and buy a Colt Canada C7/C8 because as a range only guns, plenty of other cheaper manufactures that operate just the same. If they are truly different, then wouldnt be "milspec" All ya paying for is name/finish.
Thomas D'Arcy McGee
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
A back up system in case you're fighting Russians? (there, I said it!
Unable to answer the question, so just another smart-ass troll who thinks he is funny but isn't!
I wasn't making fun of you for all the training you did back in the day to fight the Russians, rather pointing out "fighting the Russians" has come full circle and something that's on the plate again.
If you have a scope on your rifle then the front sight will be visible in your field of view but you can still shoot with it there. The rear sight will need to be a fancy flip up sight. If you had a non-flip up rear sight and scope you'd probably have too much #### on the go to see.
We at the club were impressed with the accuracy of both, especially considering both use standard triggers.
As for upper/lower fit that others are asking about, they seem to be on par with Daniel Defense, Colts, LMT's I own.
Thomas D'Arcy McGee
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Can someone answer the question: Can a 4x scope be mounted as well as the front gas port sight post? Or does the front sight post get in the view of the 4x scope and we have to remove the front sight post and put a low profile gas block instead?
andrew3081
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So, the accuracy is the same as a $1000 Ar15?
