Concealed weapon or not: The bush and animal protection

cdnprospector said:
http://205.193.86.86/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/antique-historique-eng.htm

I understand that revolvers and pistols that meet antique status are permitted to be fired in any area you can legally discharge any firearm

I think we are all still waiting to see who may be the test case regarding the LEO challenge. it's a gray area.

I see that many people get an antique status letter from the RCMP but this is not a legal requirement, but may help.I keep the customs papers and bill of sale with mine when in bush, we need to exercise this privilege to carry, and this being said, being discrete is important because if you scare the crap out of Joe public they(the powers that be) will be hell bent to take this away from us

antique firearms are expensive, shooters even more so, but good deals can be found.

there is a lot of helpful information on this site
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cdnprospector, that a great chunk of info there. Thanks

Tyockell18, I don't want to shoot it regularly but just in case. Also, If we can carry then why not?

In your opinions do you think it would help "pave" the way to make it easier to carry?
 
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dingus said:
I agree^ when i shoot my antique handguns its at the approved gun Range 99% of the time.
I pack them in the bush my "reason" being i might want to target shoot.
its my reason for haveing my gun with me is all not to blast the crap outa everything in site.
Just because i want to pack my antiques with me does not mean i am not responsible with them.
The range is the best place to target shoot with no worries or stress !
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Makes you wonder about ATT's f:P: , huh ?...:(
 
alexik said:
cdnprospector, that a great chunk of info there. Thanks

Tyockell18, I don't want to shoot it regularly but just in case. Also, If we can carry then why not?

In your opinions do you think it would help "pave" the way to make it easier to carry?
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While I have carried them in the bush before, I don't do it often and I always take the proper paper work with, keep it in a holster not concealed and don't draw attention to myself doing so.

I just prefer to fondle them in my own home and take them out to play at the range every few months :p.
 
I carried mine while camping this summer. I liked having on my side when fishing with the family on the river. although we had a rifle close by but it was always 60-80 feet away.
We never camp in campgrounds so running into people was rare.
 
mb5200 said:
I carried mine while camping this summer. I liked having on my side when fishing with the family on the river. although we had a rifle close by but it was always 60-80 feet away.
We never camp in campgrounds so running into people was rare.
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And this is a great reason to have a antique Revolver in this type of bush trip.
if your going to a local graval pit to blast at cans or shoot off some loging road where your likely to be seen then it is not such a great idea.
Even tho its where any non restricted can be discharged dont meen we gota follow that to the letter.
A little common sence like this fellow above goes along way.
Use it where its not likely to be seen by others.
I go to the range 99% of the time to shoot my handguns but the fact i can take my big bore antique handgun camping in remote areas is whats so nice about the way the regs are written.

If everyone keeps them for the above purpose they will remain perscribed antiques with all the nice things that go with them.
 
I've been considering buying a Webley Antique revolver and found this thread in a search on the topic.

After reading quite a bit of this extremely lonnnnnnnnnnnng thread, I'm still far from clear on what one can and cannot do regarding carrying an Antique revolver for purposes of target practice.

If I do buy a Webley and carry it as I hike to a remote part of the bush to shoot at targets, in addition to carrying the RCMP letter, I'll also carry a printed copy of this thread. If stopped, I'll insist that the LEO read the content of this thread. Before long they will be so confused that they'll just forget any thoughts of hauling me in. :D
 
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camerl2009 said:
dont do this thread print out the antique chart below it helps out a bit the thread is not made to be a legal document and it would be giving out info on people
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First of all, I'm kidding about printing out this thread. I don't have that much paper!

Do you think that various authorities don't have access to the internet? It's quite likely that various LEOs, CFOs, and others in positions of authority follow discussions like this with interest (and possibly amusement at times).

What chart? I don't see it.
 
swampdog said:
First of all, I'm kidding about printing out this thread. I don't have that much paper!

Do you think that various authorities don't have access to the internet? It's quite likely that various LEOs, CFOs, and others in positions of authority follow discussions like this with interest (and possibly amusement at times).

What chart? I don't see it.
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http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508109

here its the last sticky in the antique forum
 
swampdog said:
It's quite likely that various LEOs, CFOs, and others in positions of authority follow discussions like this with interest (and possibly amusement at times).
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If they weren't following a thread like this, I'd eat my shorts (well ... gag ... maybe not). Live as if you were in a glass house. In case the authorities missed my conclusion many pages back, it was no concealed antiques at any time or place due to the reasons arising out of the criminal code discussed early in this thread (although a judge may allow mitigating circumstances if one wished to avoid causing others to feel threatened, although I'd rather not be the one hoping for that. Thus, I would avoid using an antique in circumstances or places where such people may be).
 
Win 38-55 said:
If they weren't following a thread like this, I'd eat my shorts (well ... gag ... maybe not). Live as if you were in a glass house. In case the authorities missed my conclusion many pages back, it was no concealed antiques at any time or place due to the reasons arising out of the criminal code discussed early in this thread (although a judge may allow mitigating circumstances if one wished to avoid causing others to feel threatened, although I'd rather not be the one hoping for that. Thus, I would avoid using an antique in circumstances or places where such people may be).
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That is very good advice that we hope everyone follows.
 
I'm no expert, but I say do it knowing there's a slight chance of complications if anything ever did happen. In my opinion, I would rather break the law, and a bear get shot than little johny become smokey the bears breakfast. The other issue is wether or not you seriously are taking it for bear detterance or to feel like josey whales walkin through the bush with a pistol on your hip. If you do it, do er for the right reasons. If I find out you were taking pot shots at a bald eagle, and a hippy sees you, and you ruin it for the rest of us. I swear to god I will #### in your mailbox.
 
burnt_servo said:
first off i don't think there is a province or territory in canada that allows handgun hunting .
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Hmmmmm. AB Wildlife Act:
"Schedule
Items Prohibited for Hunting Purposes
Item 1
Items prohibited for hunting all wildlife
[...]

10 A restricted firearm or a prohibited firearm of a kind that is a
handgun for whose possession the holding of a licence and a
registration certificate is required by the Criminal Code (Canada),
except where a person
(a) uses the handgun to kill an animal caught in a trap, or
(b) is in possession of that handgun only for a purpose
incidental to that use or the reasonable expectation of that
use."
hxxp://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/W10.pdf
p65
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Permit to Carry

This has been an interesting topic for me to follow. I thought I'd add my comments for what they are worth. In British Columbia we can still get permits to carry restricted weapons in the remote parts of the province. I had a carry permit for two years while I was doing some prospecting in Northwestern B.C., along the Alaskan border. Had to have a letter from a range officer indicating that I was competent to shoot in a defensive manner (wildlife of course). It's interesting to note that I was instructed to carry it "discretely" not specifically concealed, but it was clear that they prefered that no one observed me carrying.
 
Vin4570 said:
This has been an interesting topic for me to follow. I thought I'd add my comments for what they are worth. In British Columbia we can still get permits to carry restricted weapons in the remote parts of the province. I had a carry permit for two years while I was doing some prospecting in Northwestern B.C., along the Alaskan border. Had to have a letter from a range officer indicating that I was competent to shoot in a defensive manner (wildlife of course). It's interesting to note that I was instructed to carry it "discretely" not specifically concealed, but it was clear that they prefered that no one observed me carrying.
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Intresting but that makes sence to combat the calls in for swat teams ect if some hiker seen you with a gun on your hip.
That is why i had theses custom webley flap holsters with shoulder straps made.
If someone is comeing towards you on a trail you can spin the holster behind your back but its not concealed its just behind you.
I have dogs with me so i just back off the trail with the dogs so they can get by me, i know the people i have run into are not looking at me but the dogs watching what they will do.
But haveing a holster on a shoulder strap works good its a long strap to.
 
V1 said:
Hmmmmm. AB Wildlife Act:
"Schedule
Items Prohibited for Hunting Purposes
Item 1
Items prohibited for hunting all wildlife
[...]

10 A restricted firearm or a prohibited firearm of a kind that is a
handgun for whose possession the holding of a licence and a
registration certificate is required by the Criminal Code (Canada),
except where a person
(a) uses the handgun to kill an animal caught in a trap, or
(b) is in possession of that handgun only for a purpose
incidental to that use or the reasonable expectation of that
use."
hxxp://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/W10.pdf
p65
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Ontario has similar regs.

Firearms
Firearms include rifles, shotguns, air or pellet guns, bows and
crossbows. You may use semi-automatic or repeating firearms for
hunting in Ontario, but not handguns that are restricted or prohibited
firearms or fully automatic firearms. Air and pellet pistols
with a muzzle velocity less than 152 metres (500 feet) per second
may be used for hunting in Ontario (see restrictions on page 22).
 
Although it appears that antique revolvers are not specifically prohibited from being used hunting there, it appears the requirement is for the device to be a "firearm," which antiques specifically do not fall under.

I'm not sure what you'd be charged with, though.
 
This is just another stupid hold over from the libertards. My god how stupid is the concept of not being able to defend yourself from a mugger or a rapist? I guess it is somehow more better to lie down spread your legs and enjoy it and possibly be murdered, or give up your watch and all your credit cards and possibly be killed because you can identify your attacker. I for the life of me do not understand their reasoning. All I can hope for is that one of the libertards that changed the law find himself or herself in a situation where they suddenly realize that at that precise moment they desperately need a side arm or pepper spray to defend themselves from a possible home invasion, rape, or mugging and it is not available because of their legislative stupidity.
 
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