Crusader Arms Crypto

So for 1000$ you get a receiver kit that doesn’t take enhanced bolt carriers ?
For $1000 you get a receiver kit that is still legal and that you can still use at the range. If I had acreage it wouldn't matter, but for me the range is the simplest and easiest way for me to get trigger time in.
 
So, who here got one of the new batch of receiver sets? I checked one out Yesterday and am kinda shocked at the lack of quality control on them. I'm curious if this is normal for all of them or if they're rushing to get them out quickly and letting quality slack. The machining seems good enough in the actual areas that matter, but there are lots of areas with clearly visible tool marks, gouges, aluminum flash, very light engraving, and generally poor anodizing quality. Given the price, I'd expect them to at least look cleaner. I'd like to hear others thought on this matter and how theirs look so I can judge if this one was just an anomaly. I know we have to make concessions up here in Soviet Canuckistan regarding price and quality vs. what ARs cost down South but this seems kinda ridiculous to me.

Yup, they are absolute garbage. I'll list all the issues I have with mine, absolutely mind blown it got out the door like this.

The gas block Screws were barely hand tight, and gas key Screws were nowhere near 55 in lbs and improperly staked as the staking made no contact. The dust cover didn't stay closed due to the dust cover latch cutout not being machined in and the magazine catch was not straight, the threaded part is bent quite a bit but still functions. The charging handle is one of those airsoft ones and mine appeared to be a reject part or blemished one as it had major machining issues and didn't even stay latched in since the latch was too short. The upper and lower have a crazy amount of machining marks and are majorly out of spec in many areas and even after fixing the charging handle issue it still would not latch closed due to a gigantic burr on the upper where the charging handle latch rides up to latch over. The handguard is also an airsoft grade handguard which looked like it was a reject part or blem of some sort, it had dents and scratches all over it under the anodizing. The castle nut was also not staked well, that being said they did stake it unlike a lot of other manufacturers, but the castle nut also has a huge rusty spot on it. The upper receiver picatinny rail is also majorly out of spec, it's not even close, so if you are mounting an optic that requires in spec rails for it to work good luck. The bolt catch is also out of spec, the hole for the roll pin is way too big.

Another issue caused by the receivers being out of spec was that with a 22lr kit you would get blasted with gas in the face and it made it almost unusable due to the rear buffer tower being cut down to low making a huge gap between the charging handle and lower.

Overall for $2000 which is even more than I paid for my blem raven 556 which is lightyears better than this thing I cant believe more people aren't complaining, I guess it's just that copium they are all huffing.

I knew all crusader arms products were bad I just didn't expect them to be this bad.
 
Yup, they are absolute garbage. I'll list all the issues I have with mine, absolutely mind blown it got out the door like this.

The gas block Screws were barely hand tight, and gas key Screws were nowhere near 55 in lbs and improperly staked as the staking made no contact. The dust cover didn't stay closed due to the dust cover latch cutout not being machined in and the magazine catch was not straight, the threaded part is bent quite a bit but still functions. The charging handle is one of those airsoft ones and mine appeared to be a reject part or blemished one as it had major machining issues and didn't even stay latched in since the latch was too short. The upper and lower have a crazy amount of machining marks and are majorly out of spec in many areas and even after fixing the charging handle issue it still would not latch closed due to a gigantic burr on the upper where the charging handle latch rides up to latch over. The handguard is also an airsoft grade handguard which looked like it was a reject part or blem of some sort, it had dents and scratches all over it under the anodizing. The castle nut was also not staked well, that being said they did stake it unlike a lot of other manufacturers, but the castle nut also has a huge rusty spot on it. The upper receiver picatinny rail is also majorly out of spec, it's not even close, so if you are mounting an optic that requires in spec rails for it to work good luck. The bolt catch is also out of spec, the hole for the roll pin is way too big.

Another issue caused by the receivers being out of spec was that with a 22lr kit you would get blasted with gas in the face and it made it almost unusable due to the rear buffer tower being cut down to low making a huge gap between the charging handle and lower.

Overall for $2000 which is even more than I paid for my blem raven 556 which is lightyears better than this thing I cant believe more people aren't complaining, I guess it's just that copium they are all huffing.

I knew all crusader arms products were bad I just didn't expect them to be this bad.

Yikes. Glad I didn't buy one.
 
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So for 1000$ you get a receiver kit that doesn’t take enhanced bolt carriers ?
Mine functions perfectly with a JP enhanced BCG, but just a sample of one.

Glad I took a look at my receiver set in store before I bought it. Seems like the QC is starting to get really bad now that they're just trying to pump them out as fast as possible
 
Haven't had any quality control issues with my receiver set, and the anodizing was nice and black; granted I bought mine a couple months ago. I'm wondering if the QC is getting worse due to volume of production.
 
Well, I almost had one. Had seen a semi-local-gun store the other day and they had 17 in stock. I phoned them on first day off and they had sold out shortly after I'd looked online after CA had made a social media post saying this particular store had them in stock and they got flooded with orders. I've now put my name down for one of the 25 they are expecting to get in 2 weeks

I had a plan to make a A1-style clone like a few others in this thread as I think they are some of the most gorgeous firearms around. I was on Numrich yesterday and tried to order a stock set (comes with buttstock, triangular handguard, and pistol grip) for $75usd. Got an e-mail this morning that they are export restricted, so my order was cancelled

I guess I'll continue searching Canada to try to find all the stock pieces, front sight/gas block, etc I'll need to make a clone
 
Well, I almost had one. Had seen a semi-local-gun store the other day and they had 17 in stock. I phoned them on first day off and they had sold out shortly after I'd looked online after CA had made a social media post saying this particular store had them in stock and they got flooded with orders. I've now put my name down for one of the 25 they are expecting to get in 2 weeks

I had a plan to make a A1-style clone like a few others in this thread as I think they are some of the most gorgeous firearms around. I was on Numrich yesterday and tried to order a stock set (comes with buttstock, triangular handguard, and pistol grip) for $75usd. Got an e-mail this morning that they are export restricted, so my order was cancelled

I guess I'll continue searching Canada to try to find all the stock pieces, front sight/gas block, etc I'll need to make a clone
RDSC has the .625 gas blocks in stock, the Faxon gunner barrel makes for a good barrel to use for a pencil barrel. Make sure you also get the 2 FSB pins (RDSC), slip ring (not the angled delta ring), the sling swivel, and sling swivel rivet.

You can order the A1 style carry handle, triangular charging handle, sling swivel rivet all from brownells without issue. I am not sure about the furniture and other parts though

Sling ring and stock set on Brownells seems to not have any export restrictions
 
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RDSC has the .625 gas blocks in stock, the Faxon gunner barrel makes for a good barrel to use for a pencil barrel. Make sure you also get the 2 FSB pins (RDSC), slip ring (not the angled delta ring), the sling swivel, and sling swivel rivet.

You can order the A1 style carry handle, triangular charging handle, sling swivel rivet all from brownells without issue. I am not sure about the furniture and other parts though as I already had mine.

Sling ring and stock set on Brownells seems to not have any export restrictions

Thanks for the assistance. I assume since the original A1/A2 style had a 20" barrel, a new barrel will be required for this build eh? I assume the handguard and triangular front sight/gas block won't fit on the 18.6" barrel that comes on the Crypto?
I'm completely new to building modern rifles as most of my stuff is old surplus which comes in much less variety and configurations than the new gear
 
Thanks for the assistance. I assume since the original A1/A2 style had a 20" barrel, a new barrel will be required for this build eh? I assume the handguard and triangular front sight/gas block won't fit on the 18.6" barrel that comes on the Crypto?
I'm completely new to building modern rifles as most of my stuff is old surplus which comes in much less variety and configurations than the new gear

The A1 has a pencil barrel with a .625" gas block profile and the A2 would have the government profile barrel (thicker from FSB to muzzle) with a .750" gas block profile, both barrels are 20" long. If you want a correct M16A1 build you would want a 20" pencil barrel with the FSB already mounted as it is a bit of a pain and requires a mill/drill press, certain drill bits, and specialty reamers to do it yourself.

I am not sure what profile the factory built Crypto rifles have, but they do not have the FSB so you would be missing the front sight, and they are not long enough to be correct for the build you want. You should be able to sell your barrel if you get a new one though. They are easy to replace, but you need the right tools, an AR armourers wrench, torque wrench, BEV block/reaction rod. If you don't plan on building many of these rifles a CGNer close by could do it for you.
 
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