I think you’re good as long as you hit a piece of fur with a cannon like that!Hunting accuracy for me? 1 MOA will do. Then I set 100m POI about 1" high, check 200m POI then check 100m off hand accuracy. This rifle is ready to go.
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Well that's the whole question(s) isn't it? Do you really have a 1 - 1.5 MOA rifle? Is your zero really precisely where it should be? Do you know your rifle/ammo as well as you think you do?Hunting rifle accuracy requirements and techniques for same are getting stupid. Cone head comes to mind.
Give me a 1” - 1.5” rifle the feeds EVERY time. That ejects EVERY time. That maintains zero EVERY time. That can be loaded from across the room. That has nothing encumbering the loading port. With a scope mounted as low to the bore line as possible. And I’ll be fine out to 500 yards. EVERY time.
Same here!You're right of course - more is always better for a truer representation but if I would have said 30 rounds instead of 10 in post #4, the protesting would have been off the charts LOL
As it is a lot of hunters will have enough difficulty justifying 10 rounds (cost wise) in 1 target group believing that to be a huge waste of resources not realizing that the real waste is a bunch of separate 3 shot groups that don't really tell you much of anything.
If I could have all the ammo back that I wasted chasing my tail using 3 shot groups when I was younger I would be a very happy man. Like they say "Too soon old - too late smart"
There’s lots of sayings. The target shooting saying I like goes like this:You should be able to grab your hunting rifle out of storage right now and shoot game dead with 1 round. If not youre just guessing. How does the saying go for hunting season.... just need 3 bullets. 1 to foul the bore. 1 to confirm zero. 1 to shoot the animal.
Id suggest taking the rifle with you to the range and shooting it one time. Make an adjustment if necessary and try again next time. Until the bullet goes exactly where you think it will go on the first shot, it's unethical to shoot at an animal.
100% agree with you and Original poster.I’m not sure what type of hunting requires a 10 or 30 shot group to confirm the cone of dispersion. I see that as a technique for target shooting and/or maybe extreme long range “shunting”.
If that’s your game, have at it.
The deep freeze is my measure of success for hunting. Group size is my measure of success for precision and target shooting.
I’ve used many guns over the years to fill the deep freeze. Some were better than others, but I’ve had success with guns that barely shot 3 into a dinner plate at 100 yds. I just kept the shots close.
As a hunter, the most important rule is “know your limits”. This encompasses:
Know your abilities; know your gun and ammo; know your game animal; anticipate your likely hunting conditions, weather, probable shooting positions and distance, etc. Practice your most likely shooting positions at your most likely shooting distances. Cold bore practice is best. The first shot is the one that really counts.
I don’t need a 10 or 30 shot cone of dispersion (from a bench) to kill a moose freehand at 150yds!
Practice, using real world hunting positions, is more valuable to me.
I restored one almost identical, and shoots almost the same. 9.3 for whatever reason is such a wicked shooter... Ive owned 4 and have yet to find one that cant shoot, Its IMO just inherently accurate. great shooting!I get them shooting as good as possible, no real downside to having accuracy.
Most run of the mill hunting rifles will shoot sub moa with a decent load.
This Bubba HVA 98 in 9.3x62 was pretty easy to get shooting tight, 70 years old or so, $400 rifle.
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There’s lots of sayings. The target shooting saying I like goes like this:
Beginners talk about rifles. Better shots talk about ammo. The winners talk about wind.
Thank you. At 4500 rounds my M70 is still doing most of the work, we’ve been tight since I was 13 lol. I have a very beat up 10 inch square for hunting practice.100% agree with you and Original poster.
its all mostly PRS/ bragging rights, or in some case like mine just testing for fun what's capable.
You would have to be a total #######, to barrel burn down 10 rounds under a min on a hunting rifle with a pencil barrel. Its gonna walk.
(im that ####### and have tried, and yes its fun) HAHA!
note for OP, that's a pretty good 12-13" group considering the variables, and good shooting, should take down any animal with proper bullet.
However will say I base my calculator factors at 8-10" kill zones. 12-16/ hell even 20" im sure are fine on moose and elk, I just error on the side of the caution.
Tough to judge and talk crap when most of the OG hunters still have no clue how to dial or let alone hunt with a straight 6x and fill the freezer.
End of the day always just fun to talk about it and compare stories and experiences. Cheers!
well just a subtle piece of advice as my classic hunting 280 rem, before I crashed my quad and broke the stock....Thank you. At 4500 rounds my M70 is still doing most of the work, we’ve been tight since I was 13 lol. I have a very beat up 10 inch square for hunting practice.
I hold really tight. NFG for 10 or 20 shot groups.I wouldn’t want him shooting at me. 5 solid hits on an IPSC target at 600 from an improvised rest?