Least favourite cartridge?

[River Rat]

357mag 44 Mag or 44-40 in a rifle,about as useful as castors on crutchs.

 

[stubblejumper]

So that makes my 300H&H a better deer caliber than my .308 except for the fact it is about 1.5lbs heavier?

Actually the 308win and 300h&h are the same caliber.As for the weight,either chambering can be had in either lightweight or heavier rifles.

 

[Gibbs505]

In any case, we are talking Cartridge, not rifle.

I also happen to think that the 303 BR is just about the perfect north americian cartridge and the 270 win the most overated.

 

[303carbine]

It should be what's the least favorite rifle, not caliber.
Of course the commie junk crappola sks is the worst piece of sh!t ever made.
You can send all the sks rifles to me, I will never shoot them. They might make an interesting artificial reef though.
I would call it...commie crappola reef.

 

[Dustin]

It should be what's the least favorite rifle, not caliber.
Of course the commie junk crappola sks is the worst piece of sh!t ever made.
You can send all the sks rifles to me, I will never shoot them. They might make an interesting artificial reef though.
I would call it...commie crappola reef.

We'll take that as a vote for the 7.62x39

 

[Ruger30-06]

.270win...it just feels too under powered.

 

[Gatehouse]

It should be what's the least favorite rifle, not caliber.
Of course the commie junk crappola sks is the worst piece of sh!t ever made.
You can send all the sks rifles to me, I will never shoot them. They might make an interesting artificial reef though.
I would call it...commie crappola reef.

What is interesting is that the SKS and ther 303 are the same caliber..

And damn! Rollingrocks recent blacktail buck (shot with a single SKS round) sure looks nice.

He is a GREAT blacktail.

I guess that ####ty SKS rifle works just fine, when youare HUNTING, and not sitting around #####INp

 

[Ardent]

It should be what's the least favorite rifle, not caliber.
Of course the commie junk crappola sks is the worst piece of sh!t ever made.
You can send all the sks rifles to me, I will never shoot them. They might make an interesting artificial reef though.
I would call it...commie crappola reef.

What on earth did the SKS do to you as a child...?

Have you ever even shot a yugo SKS as a side note? If you're still having problems with the rifle, I'd put good money on the problem being you, the shooter. Legions of us use it to good effect. You can get there too, just takes practice, thankfully the ammos cheap.

What is interesting is that the SKS and ther 303 are the same caliber..

And damn! Rollingrocks recent blacktail buck (shot with a single SKS round) sure looks nice.

He is a GREAT blacktail.

I guess that s**tty SKS rifle works just fine, when youare HUNTING, and not sitting around #####INp

I like this guy.

 

[Gatehouse]

I like this guy.

Yeah, well you need not stand in line.. Ther eis not a bunch of people here willing to admit that a well placed shot from an SKS can kill adeer.

Too bad they are wrong.

 

[jimmyjazz]

Least favorite where do I start.....whole bunch of useless, repetitive calibers out there.

Least favorite would go to 22-250 way to loud for what you get.

 

[Grouse Man]

My vote is for the .577-250 AI Nitro Express SSM.

 

[Bishopus]

a well placed shot from an SKS can kill adeer.

and so can a well-placed .22 LR, or a well-placed spear...

Nobody's saying that deer are impervious to the 7.62x39, or that the SKS is literally unusable as a hunting rifle. But most people agree that they're both MARGINAL for that purpose.

MARGINAL doesn't mean unusable. MARGINAL means there are lots and lots of better choices.

 

[Gatehouse]

and so can a well-placed .22 LR, or a well-placed spear...

Nobody's saying that deer are impervious to the 7.62x39, or that the SKS is literally unusable as a hunting rifle. But most people agree that they're both MARGINAL for that purpose.

MARGINAL doesn't mean unusable. MARGINAL means there are lots and lots of better choices.

As marginal as the 30-30, yes.

 

[Bishopus]

http://www.chuckhawks.com/subscribers/rifle_cartridge_page/compared_30-30_7-62x39.htm

Thanks for comin' out;-)


Edited to add: Looking back over what we have learned, the .30-30 is somewhat to considerably superior in the areas of availability, velocity, energy, trajectory, bullet weight, sectional density (penetration), and killing power. The 7.62x39 kicks less.

 

[Gatehouse]

Chuck Hawks is hardly the definitive answer on anything...

I stole ths from another thread:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100107&page=2

This info is from the Remington website. For those who haven't visited it yet, they have a ballistics page where you can compare up to 3 calibers & select from a variety of different bullet weights.

Muzzle Velocity
7.62x39mm - 125gr. PSP - 2365 ft/sec
30-30 Win - 125gr. PSP CL - 2175 ft/sec
30-30 Win -150gr SP CL - 2390 ft/sec

Energy (ft-lbs)
7.62x39mm - 125gr. PSP - 1552 (muzzle), 1180 (at 100 yrds)
30-30 Win - 125gr. PSP CL - 1313 (muzzle), 919 (at 100 yards)
30-30 Win - 150gr. SP CL - 1902 (muzzle), 1296 (at 100 yards)

The Velocity & Energy comparisons actually go up to 500 yards on the Remington site, and they also have Long Range & Short Range Trajectory comparisons up to 500 yards as well, which show how high or low the bullet rises or drops at each distance.

Source:
http://www.remington.com/products/am...on/ballistics/

My comment: Looks like the energy at 100 yards isn't much different. 116 ft/lbs

Here is what Prospers chrony says:

(stolen form the same thread)

Source: Me & my chrony.

Marlin 336RC 30-30. 150gr (factory ammo) @ ~2050 fps
SKS 7.62x39 150 gr @ ~2100fps__________________

Hell, i'd go out and set up the chrony but I dont' have a 30-30..

 

[Calum]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/rockrolling/DSCF0407.jpg
Yah it must be just sleeping.
Lets see your Deer .303 carbine?

 

[prosper]

My chrony results should be appended to mention that my 30-30 was an 18.5" carbine. Normal published 30-30 velocities are taken from 24" barrels. And even then, they're often rather 'optimistic'

 

[Gatehouse]

From Hodgdon data, bith with 24" barrels- About 200 FPS slower wiht a 150gr bullet.


7.62 X 39MM RUSSIAN

CASE: MIDWAY

BBL: 24"

PR: CCI 200



125 GR. SPR SP

COL: 2.150"

BL-C(2) 31.5 2349
38,800 CUP

H335 31.5 2408
40,900 CUP

H4895 29.0 2249
33,600 CUP

H322 29.0 2323
35,400 CUP

H4198 26.5 2378
40,400 CUP


150 GR. HDY SP

COL: 2.220"

BL-C(2) 29.5 2090
40,400 CUP

H335 29.0 2132
42,500 CUP

H4895 28.0 2154
39,300 CUP

H322 28.5 2192
40,400 CUP

H4198 24.5 2122
39,800 CUP


30-30 WINCHESTER

CASE: WINCHESTER

BBL: 24"

PR: WINCHESTER LR



150 GR. SIE FN

COL: 2.550"

VARGET 34.5 2349
36,200 CUP

BL-C(2) 37.0 2358
33,900 CUP

H335 33.0 2308
36,200 CUP

H4895 34.0 2390
36,700 CUP

BENCHMARK 29.0 2183
37,200 CUP

H4198 24.0 2110
36,800 CUP


170 GR. SIE FP

COL: 2.550"

VARGET 33.0 2168
36,500 CUP
BL-C(2) 36.0 2227
34,700 CUP
H335 30.5 2086
36,300 CUP
H4895 30.5 2138
35,200 CUP
BENCHMARK 27.0 2001
36,100 CUP
H4198 22.5 1918
32,600 CUP

 

[catnthehatt]

My vote is for the .577-250 AI Nitro Express SSM.

Anybody know where I can a reamer??
I happen to have a spare action hanging around!!
Cat

 

[Bishopus]

I reverse-trolled gatehouse!

I'd like to take this moment to thank my family, of course my manager, um let's see... SATAN...