Pure ###y right there!
M40 Family - Who owns one?
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Pure ###y right there!
Very Very nice buddy
I still say ya need to adopt me lol
Both are marked factory WRA. It is my understanding Douglas barrels were unmarked?
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The guys in the US go all out when doing their builds. Correct 6 digit serial numbers on the receivers, return stocks, etc.
But really it's not cheat. I inquired with ARTS to build me an exact clone and it was going to be around $4000+ to build the rifle. GA Precision has their rifles priced about the same. Then the scopes are worth anywhere from $3000-$4000. Finding the correct mounts and rings which aren't made very often can run you about $300-$400. If you want the proper MRT sling then add in another $200.
If you want an authentic USMC return stock expect to pay $3000 just for stock.
These things aren't cheap by any means.
I am not happy with the way I'm shooting this rifle so far. I can't get consistently reasonable groups. My first time out I was pleased with the results, I was getting 3 shot groups that were promising. I figured pretty good for the first time out with a new rifle. I was just getting started setting up the scope and hadn't done any shooting in a while, with some practice and familiarity with the rig I'd improve right? Was using front and rear bags on a bench.
Took it out again last weekend (bedded in new stock, scope mount) and worked on dialing it in more. Started at the short range (43 yds just to get the mst-100 back to a zero after re-mounting it). I thought these results were encouraging. Corner targets were shot fine-tuning the elevation and windage, center target is the end result (10 shots). Using front bag and off hand tucked into thumb hook as my rear bag was busy with my boys shooting their rimfires.
Moved over to the 100 m range and set up again. 10 shot groups again.
Back at the range yesterday, warmed up at the 43 yd range again as my son was working on zeroing his new rimfire scope. Front and rear bags this time, 5 rd groups.
First group, cold barrel.
Second (there were some .17 hmr shots peppered into this one):
Third: I switched out to Hornady to see if they were similar to the Federals while I was waiting for my son to wrap up his dial-in.
The 100m ranges were busy when we wrapped up so we bounced to the 200/300 range so we could keep shooting. This was less encouraging...
In fairness to the rifle, I was fiddling with the elevation on the top left and center targets (I couldn't remember which way to dial the fine-adjust
) but for the bottom two targets I wasn't fiddling.
I moved over to the 300 m to ding the steel plate a few times afterwards, at least that was satisfying
.
I'm not an experienced precision shooter by any stretch of the imagination, but not happy with these results. That being said, I've only got about 500 rds through this rifle since getting it. It has a horrible trigger, but I don't want to blame the equipment. I have a Triggertech coming in the mail, if that doesn't help I have to assume its just me haha and I guess I just need to keep working on improving my technique. I still THINK the rifle is capable of better....
Comments and criticisms welcome!
Took it out again last weekend (bedded in new stock, scope mount) and worked on dialing it in more. Started at the short range (43 yds just to get the mst-100 back to a zero after re-mounting it). I thought these results were encouraging. Corner targets were shot fine-tuning the elevation and windage, center target is the end result (10 shots). Using front bag and off hand tucked into thumb hook as my rear bag was busy with my boys shooting their rimfires.
Moved over to the 100 m range and set up again. 10 shot groups again.
Back at the range yesterday, warmed up at the 43 yd range again as my son was working on zeroing his new rimfire scope. Front and rear bags this time, 5 rd groups.
First group, cold barrel.
Second (there were some .17 hmr shots peppered into this one):
Third: I switched out to Hornady to see if they were similar to the Federals while I was waiting for my son to wrap up his dial-in.
The 100m ranges were busy when we wrapped up so we bounced to the 200/300 range so we could keep shooting. This was less encouraging...
In fairness to the rifle, I was fiddling with the elevation on the top left and center targets (I couldn't remember which way to dial the fine-adjust
) but for the bottom two targets I wasn't fiddling.
I moved over to the 300 m to ding the steel plate a few times afterwards, at least that was satisfying
. I'm not an experienced precision shooter by any stretch of the imagination, but not happy with these results. That being said, I've only got about 500 rds through this rifle since getting it. It has a horrible trigger, but I don't want to blame the equipment. I have a Triggertech coming in the mail, if that doesn't help I have to assume its just me haha and I guess I just need to keep working on improving my technique. I still THINK the rifle is capable of better....
Comments and criticisms welcome!
Ok so there are a few things to remember about the MST-100. It is parallaxed to 300 yards. So you're going to have some issues with that especially at really short distances. Set the gun up on your shooting bags and point the rifle at a 100 yard target and just lean back and move your head back and forth. You should see the crosshairs move around the target. So unless you place your head 100% in the exact same spot every time you will have crosshair shift. This is where a good cheek weld comes in with the MST-100. Next is the trigger. ####ty triggers do matter. The difference between the trigger on my M40A1 and my friend's stock Remington 700 was night and day different. I couldn't hit #### shooting his rifle and he was having trouble with not being used to my trigger. Next comes ammo selection. I was lucky enough that my gun loves a factory ammo and it was the first one I tried.
But guns are finicky. My father and I had two guns, consecutive serial numbers, same caliber. His could shoot federal blue box under an inch, mine wouldn't group them under 2".
One thing I've found that can help nail problems down is either let someone else shoot your gun or set it up into a lead sled and take the human factor right out of the equation. If you put it into a rest and the gun groups fine you either have a shooter issue or maybe a scope issue. If it doesn't group in the lead sled then you have an ammo issue or a gun issue.
Now the MST scopes require a 175gr bullet traveling at 2600fps for the dials to work precisely but your gun might not like the 175gr bullets. It might need 150gr or 178gr.
But guns are finicky. My father and I had two guns, consecutive serial numbers, same caliber. His could shoot federal blue box under an inch, mine wouldn't group them under 2".
One thing I've found that can help nail problems down is either let someone else shoot your gun or set it up into a lead sled and take the human factor right out of the equation. If you put it into a rest and the gun groups fine you either have a shooter issue or maybe a scope issue. If it doesn't group in the lead sled then you have an ammo issue or a gun issue.
Now the MST scopes require a 175gr bullet traveling at 2600fps for the dials to work precisely but your gun might not like the 175gr bullets. It might need 150gr or 178gr.
I'm aware of the parallax and setup for the scope, I've been working on maintaining consistent cheek weld and eye relief. As well, I've been adjusting the dope chart (you provided) and making notes for where my ammunition performs in relation to the published/chart numbers. My problem isn't with the MST, I've been working on getting used to it with its limitations.
I agree with the idea of shooting the rifle from a rest or sled to try eliminating the human error factor, it would definitely help establish whether or not the rifle itself is capable. Haven't had the opportunity for this yet. Its frustrating to put them downrange without seeing improvement, but I haven't gotten to the point where I'm blaming the rifle yet. I still haven't shot it enough to convince myself I'm not the variable in the equation.
I was hoping to get back out today for another try, got some yard cleanup to do then may have some free time.
I agree with the idea of shooting the rifle from a rest or sled to try eliminating the human error factor, it would definitely help establish whether or not the rifle itself is capable. Haven't had the opportunity for this yet. Its frustrating to put them downrange without seeing improvement, but I haven't gotten to the point where I'm blaming the rifle yet. I still haven't shot it enough to convince myself I'm not the variable in the equation.
I was hoping to get back out today for another try, got some yard cleanup to do then may have some free time.
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Worked all week, went to go to the range this weekend... closed for the Kennel Club?! WTF?! Seriously... the dog people don't have anywhere else to go so they close a gun range down for a weekend on a beautiful perfect day like this?
No idea yet, was only shooting for sound on the gong at 300 until this afternoon. Haven't really done a full diagnosis on today's shoot yet. I'll say this, apparently I'm better at 300 than at 100 or 200......
