Mannlichers....

I have never seen the post-64 fullstock Winchester model 70 "Mannlicher" with sights. I thought they originally came with just a bare barrel. Some Winchester expert (there seem to be a lot of them) can clarify this.
 
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Nice looking winchesters for sure

I have one in 243, not in as good of condition as this example due to an "abrasion" in the cheekpiece.

I have never seen the post-64 fullstock Winchester model 70 "Mannlicher" with sights. I thought they originally came with just a bare barrel. Some Winchester expert (there seem to be a lot of them) can clarify this.

When I purchased mine, it came with the sights but had never been installed. I took this to mean that they came standard in the shipping carton but were left to the end-user whether to use or scope.
 
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What year is your .243 Winchester Mannlicher?

Push-feed?

I thought they were all push-feed, or was there a later CRF Winchester Mannlicher?

And were they Williams sights? They look like it in the photo.
 
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I haven't dated it, just assumed it fell into that three year window of manufacture.
Definitely push feed, I don't believe there are production CRF with a stutzen stock.
I believe the rear sight is Williams, would have to check and confirm.
 
Thank you for that information. I have never actually seen a Winchester Mannlicher, just in photos, and always with a bare barrel, so I just assumed they came without sights.
 
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Thank you for that information. I have never seen a Winchester Mannlicher for real, just in photos, and always with a bare barrel, so I had just assumed they came without sights.

Doing some cursory digging for information, the medium length cartridge production numbers were dramatically lower than the long cartridge. 308 Win being the lowest with less than 400 produced. The rifles were only made in 30-06, 270 Win, 243 Win and 308.
 
Mannlicher-Schœnauer Model 1956 w/1.5-6X40 B. Nickel (Germany) scope in Steyr factory claw mounts. 30-06 Calibre.


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Yes, its amazing how much better these look after you remove the white line spacers.
 
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Mannlicher-Schœnauer Model 1903, w/factory special order wood, 6.5x54 M-S calibre.


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Is the large “ baseball mitt” cheek piece the design that is intended for dual use with irons and scope?

I’ve become somewhat obsessed with these rifles lately. Wish I had played with one when I had a bigger gun budget.

I know it’s heresy but I wonder how many of the 1956 model were made with single triggers? Was this common for the NA market? I never see them anywhere.
 
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Is the large “ baseball mitt” cheek piece the design that is intended for dual use with irons and scope?

I’ve become somewhat obsessed with these rifles lately. Wish I had played with one when I had a bigger gun budget.

I know it’s heresy but I wonder how many of the 1956 model were made with single triggers? Was this common for the NA market? I never see them anywhere.

Yes. That big hollow cheekpiece allows easy use of either irons or scope and it is amazingly effective. I wasn't sure about it before I used it, but now that I have, I'm a fan. The same is true of the single trigger. In the past, I often tried to get M-S and "Mannlicher-style" rifles with double-set triggers, but now that I have used the Model 1956 single trigger I am converted, at least for use in these post-war, last of the traditional, M-S rifles. The one used in the 1956 is the so-called "new" single trigger. It breaks sharp and clean. The one used in the earliest pre-war M-S models like the 1903 is a different and I think a poorer design.

(I have no idea how many M-S rifles were made with single triggers vs. DST)

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also...I just noticed this German company that converts M-S from DST to ST. For what they charge, you could buy a fairly nice complete rifle. https://www.waffen-kessler.de/trigger-mannlicher-schoenauer-1.html


They also produce their own (Kessler) version of a Mannlicher-Schoenauer...Although expensive at close to $10,000 (Can) its still worth taking a look at their site. They also make some nice Mauser 98s. https://www.waffen-kessler.de/pirsch-08-09.html


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Thanks for the info Rob.

I like my single set triggers, but have never used a double and I’m honestly not sure how I would feel about it.

That “slope away” cheekpiece is pretty “ tasteful” for lack of a better word, some more extreme examples of that style are gaudy as hell.

Very cool that someone is still producing the rifles
 
If the mail ever gets going again between Argentina and Canada, I have a single trigger coming for my 7x64 model GK. A "penpal" that I met on African Hunting forums agreed to sell it to me some months ago. I would prefer the single trigger to the double set that my rifle currently wears. Wish me luck with the wonky COVID mail service!
 
If the mail ever gets going again between Argentina and Canada, I have a single trigger coming for my 7x64 model GK. A "penpal" that I met on African Hunting forums agreed to sell it to me some months ago. I would prefer the single trigger to the double set that my rifle currently wears. Wish me luck with the wonky COVID mail service!

In my experience, trigger swaps on even late model M-S are not always easy. The triggers themselves will swap easily enough, but the trigger plate that fits inside the guard must also be changed and that contains the threaded hole into which the trigger guard turns. These threads are hand cut and will not always work with a trigger guard from another rifle. They are also timed to allow the trigger guard to line up correctly. There are many serial numbered parts on a M-S, including the guard screws, that will not always perfectly fit another rifle. It all depends on how good you expect the fit to be and how satisfied you will be with a less than perfect fit. But like I said, the fitting of the actual trigger is no problem. All that said, any part can always be altered to fit, but it may be more work than you imagine. Is he sending you the trigger plate and guard as well, or just the trigger?
 
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