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lol....exactly what I was thinking....
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Sorry you feel so threatened when someone posts regarding something they know about and you clearly do not. Pretty weird you would take your post down that path. Plus the whole projecting with the child thing. That being said, that’s a you problem! To quote Ben Shapiro “the facts don’t care about your feelings”.
These types of vehicles serve a purpose and are specifically designed for Police. I’m glad they are available and police departments are using them when required.
You, mighty best cop on the planet, took it down that path, not me. Nowhere did i state that i feel police should not have this. I stated it would be nice if the general firearm owning public could have the right to defend ourselves. I guarantee you where i originally come from, i had to use a gun to keep my family safe, more often than you use a gun in your line of work in this country. So trust me, you have no idea what you are talking about. To attack me because i feel as a citizen that pays taxes in this country i should have the right to protect myself and family, taking nothing away from the job of police, is childish. That is why i made that statement and will keep on making that statement, because its a joke that i have to be dependant on you and your government to come to my rescue. I lived with a gun on my side every day of my life since i was 17 dude. I hope your family is never put in situations like mine have where if i had to wait for the police, no matter if its in f16 jets, helicopters or your black van, it would not have mattered. I would not have been able to leave there with my whole family. So please dont think you impress me at all with your serious policing you have done. All due respect, and i do have good friends in the force, this is probably the safest country to be an officer in. Nowhere, did i state police dont have a use for this. Wake up.
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Maybe just anti establishment...
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angrysoldier
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So let's talk Moncton. Two hundred police who most had hard body Armour in the rinks of their cars were terrified of one man with a rifle...one man. How afraid were they? One RCMP office was caught on video trying to rip his uniform off while not under fire. Twice the shooter crossed between homes in front of the police but the police would not fire at him in fear he would engage them. It got so bad that a company was stood up at the RCR in gagetown and the counter IED squadron at 4 ESR was asked to deploy with the counter IED robots due to the fear of one man with a rifle. So do the police need an armored vehicle? No, they need better training and to hire the right guys/gals. Fear is a powerful emotion and by the looks of it, it seems to run rampant in most police forces. The videos I speak of can be found on LiveLeak com.
The RCMP recently talked about gun crime and mental health. The article was about stopping mentally ill people from killing themselves with guns. According to the RCMP 80 % of all gun deaths are suicides and in 2014( most recent stat) 262 people killed themselves with guns....so with my mental math that makes 52 people killed by guns in Canada according to the RCMP. So please explain the need for officer safety when is actually extremely little gun crime in Canada? 36 million people with an estimated 21 million guns....you have a greater risk choking on a hotdog. I'm not against officer safety but I don't want to see my tax dollars pissed away either.
http://www.cbc.ca/1.4493326
So let's talk Moncton. Two hundred police who most had hard body Armour in the rinks of their cars were terrified of one man with a rifle...one man. How afraid were they? One RCMP office was caught on video trying to rip his uniform off while not under fire. Twice the shooter crossed between homes in front of the police but the police would not fire at him in fear he would engage them. It got so bad that a company was stood up at the RCR in gagetown and the counter IED squadron at 4 ESR was asked to deploy with the counter IED robots due to the fear of one man with a rifle. So do the police need an armored vehicle? No, they need better training and to hire the right guys/gals. Fear is a powerful emotion and by the looks of it, it seems to run rampant in most police forces. The videos I speak of can be found on LiveLeak com.
The RCMP recently talked about gun crime and mental health. The article was about stopping mentally ill people from killing themselves with guns. According to the RCMP 80 % of all gun deaths are suicides and in 2014( most recent stat) 262 people killed themselves with guns....so with my mental math that makes 52 people killed by guns in Canada according to the RCMP. So please explain the need for officer safety when is actually extremely little gun crime in Canada? 36 million people with an estimated 21 million guns....you have a greater risk choking on a hotdog. I'm not against officer safety but I don't want to see my tax dollars pissed away either.
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Glad to have you, a person who understands what real freedom is through the experience of having to fight for it, here.
Worshipping the states enforcers of its arbitrary rules is the very definition of Stockholm Syndrome...
How someone can see an armoured APC in the states hands as an enforcement tool as a good thing and not an indicator of serious societal decay is mind blowing.
The government is not going to help you, does not care about you and will only act in its own interests for its own preservation. No matter political affiliation. Period.
I would think firearms owners of all people would have the sense and prior experience to realise this.
The West is having a serious crisis of confidence. This is indicative of that.
The facts indicate that the only place this could be remotely plausible is in the large urban inner cities. Can your lefty brain possibly connect the forced demographic changes that have been perpetrated by our "representatives" in this country with that perceived need?
Ask yourself why Chicago, Detroit, L.A., etc. have the highest rates of all the major crimes in the U.S. then wonder in amazement at why Toronto and Vancouver city centres are ####holes. Trot out the old poverty canard and I'll refer you to The Bell Curve, a little light reading that is very enlightening.
Muh diversity is killing our freedoms and you act as a cheerleader for it. The blind leading the willfully ignorant.
But of course all this requires some deductive logical thought free from the hysterical political correct garbage rammed down our throats daily.
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So many seem to forget that many, most in my opinion, LEO's are very pro self defence. It's not mutually exclusive here guys - don't make spurious and irrelevant false dichotomies. Yes, police do need these vehicles for certain situations, and yes you should be allowed to own and carry firearms for self protection.
Don't get mad at the police for having the tools they need to do their jobs. Get mad at the self serving politicians who are failing you and disrespecting your rights.
Also, if you're worried about the cost of police across the country having a handful of these vehicles, you REALLY have not been paying attention to what the Liberals have been doing with your tax dollars.
Did you forget they paid out over ten million dollars to a convicted terrorist just because? Did you forget that the PM saw fit to charge taxpayers for his little island holiday, committing no less than four ethics violations in the process? Give your heads a shake!
Don't get mad at the police for having the tools they need to do their jobs. Get mad at the self serving politicians who are failing you and disrespecting your rights.
Also, if you're worried about the cost of police across the country having a handful of these vehicles, you REALLY have not been paying attention to what the Liberals have been doing with your tax dollars.
Did you forget they paid out over ten million dollars to a convicted terrorist just because? Did you forget that the PM saw fit to charge taxpayers for his little island holiday, committing no less than four ethics violations in the process? Give your heads a shake!
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If only it was as easy as blaming just the politicians. Come on now, you and i know, that when it comes to firearms and many of our rights in relation to them, the good ol RCMP makes the rules! In this case they are the politicians. One and the same thing. Government! And really they could not care a lick how we feel about our rights.
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Jeesus... a vehicle like that with "police" on it... where is society heading?
The same place that makes you feel like you need ccw.
How about this, I'll grab my m305. You can have your choice of 9mm pistol, and 12 gauge pump with buckshot, and we'll run around hunting each other. Probably no reason for you to worry...
Most didn't have hard plates, it was another failing of the RCMP management.
Again going back to rifle vs handgun/buckshot.
That's a pretty bold statement. I'm sure you can document the time you've spent with the I'll guess, 200 or so police forces in Canada. I'll just wait for you to post your notes and personal stories.
There is lots of firearm threats in Canada. Just because they don't make the news doesn't mean they don't happen. And suicidal people with guns who want attention, usually include the threat of "I will shoot anyone that comes near".
I presume you're a veteran, and wouldn't dream of lecturing you on Military stuff, or combat operations. Likewise you shouldn't lecture police on their job. It isn't your wheelhouse anymore so than I can talk to my partner at work about what he should have done in his time in Bosina and Afganistan.
You don't have that expertise, and neither are we able to reciprocate. At best leave it to your opinion and present it simply as that, an opinion.
That's right. Continue to place your hands over your ears and never engage someone who is speaking about the "facts".
This kind of blind denial and unwillingness to even consider your incomplete knowledge is exactly why you will lose your "privileges" without a whimper.
Enjoy how safe those APCs make you feel for now.
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