Ruger products-dead for me due to idiotic engineering

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I felt like that too skimming the thread I come to a different conclusion. I thought it was a comment on the difficulty of stripping the bolt (which I did and was a challenge to do first time around.)

Anyways, carry on :)
 
PECHENEG said:
if you witness war, your country disintegration, then you would understand, otherwise-sure, prepare for emergency and not big SHTF.. but let me tell you not all big wars will happen "somewhere/ elsewhere" one day it will happen on the grounds of N. America.. believe it or not
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If what you say is true and "big war" comes to Canada, then the things you dislike about the 10/22 will be the least of your problems. In "big war" it simply won't matter. There are many videos from the sandbox that show some remote farmhouse where a dozen guys are holed-up with AK's and it appears to be a well-fortified compound. Nice bug-out location. Then wooosh....BOOM! Laser-guided bomb. All dead.

In the next video they're camped out in fields or woods at night, and you can see their thermal signatures through the helicopter's FLIR imaging... I'm sure they have competent SHTF rifles. Then tat-tat-tat-tat-tat. All dead, body parts a'flying. The plastic trigger guard fades into irrelevancy when up against a 30mm chain gun -- even if one cheated and used their Butler Creek with all 25 rounds of CCI minimag.... :p
 
barrett50cal said:
If what you say is true and "big war" comes to Canada, then the things you dislike about the 10/22 will be the least of your problems. In "big war" it simply won't matter. There are many videos from the sandbox that show some remote farmhouse where a dozen guys are holed-up with AK's and it appears to be a well-fortified compound. Nice bug-out location. Then wooosh....BOOM! Laser-guided bomb. All dead.

In the next video they're camped out in fields or woods at night, and you can see their thermal signatures through the helicopter's FLIR imaging... I'm sure they have competent SHTF rifles. Then tat-tat-tat-tat-tat. All dead, body parts a'flying. The plastic trigger guard fades into irrelevancy when up against a 30mm chain gun -- even if one cheated and used their Butler Creek with all 25 rounds of CCI minimag.... :p
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Cannot contradict anything!
 
If what you say is true and "big war" comes to Canada, then the things you dislike about the 10/22 will be the least of your problems. In "big war" it simply won't matter. There are many videos from the sandbox that show some remote farmhouse where a dozen guys are holed-up with AK's and it appears to be a well-fortified compound. Nice bug-out location. Then wooosh....BOOM! Laser-guided bomb. All dead.

In the next video they're camped out in fields or woods at night, and you can see their thermal signatures through the helicopter's FLIR imaging... I'm sure they have competent SHTF rifles. Then tat-tat-tat-tat-tat. All dead, body parts a'flying. The plastic trigger guard fades into irrelevancy when up against a 30mm chain gun -- even if one cheated and used their Butler Creek with all 25 rounds of CCI minimag....
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Always love reading these 'pipe dream' scenarios where next conflict has the other side lining up, grouping together to get mowed down like brainless cardboard targets.

Funny thing is that conflict in real life never turns out the way same way twice and the only guarantee is it never happens as you extpected it to go! ;)
 
OkayShooter said:
I stopped buying ruger over the idiotic warranty center in Canada and poor QC.
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Disagree... Snapshots has been excellent to deal with.
QC is an issue on the lowend guns, not so much the others. But, the other companies are cheaping out just as much on lowend stuff... it is a shame to be on the sidelines watching the "race to the bottom."
 
rommelrommel said:
There was a good build up but it spiralled out of control way too fast for master level trolling. I'm thinking brain damage.
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Yup. Not sure on the brain damage...thinking the OP might be trying to create a name for himself online with his Youtube channel so taking a hard stand might be part of the strategy. OP I could be wrong, just my view.
 
Comparing make believe scenarios of post apocalyptic Canada aside here (good grief...) I will have to agree slightly with the OP.
Put it this way, I'm a huge fan of the Ruger Mini-14 new 582 series. HUGE fan. But I somewhat agree.
The factory rear sight on them is literally THE most badly designed sight I have ever handled in my time owning guns. It's an abortion of a design.
In a nutshel, a set screw on each side of the sight assy to hold the rear aperture windage in place, the sight itself is threaded to rotate down or up as you turn it BUT you can't adjust/turn the aperture unless you back off both windage screws hence completely losing your windage zero! It's ####ing retarded. If you want to adjust the sight from a target zero at 75 meters lets say, to shoot at a target at 200 meters, you can't just twist the aperture, you need to loosen both windage screws, lose your windage zero completely as it goes slack, then adjust elevation and re-tighten the windage screws but now you have completely trashed your windage and it's throwing left fielders. Now you have to re-zero the rifle from scratch!! :S
There is not a semi auto .22LR on the market currently that doesn't take a little bit of ####ery to strip though. My prized 597 Rem is about as bad as the 10/22 to strip down.
 
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hoytcanon said:
Disagree... Snapshots has been excellent to deal with.
QC is an issue on the lowend guns, not so much the others. But, the other companies are cheaping out just as much on lowend stuff... it is a shame to be on the sidelines watching the "race to the bottom."
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3 guns to replace 1. 1 had a scope mount drilled crooked, second the front sight was crooked, and rear sight busted. Second gun shouldn't even been sent to me in the first place. Because they knew it was crooked, and tried to fix it good enough. All the cost of shipping. Even lower end guns, you shouldn't be sending out with crooked anything.
 
PECHENEG said:
Those who have courage to tell that rimfire design is different from centre fire... man oh man, why then there is sks like .22 Baikal and swap upper in .22 for Glock or Sig... seriously striker arriving a bit off centre and to the centre that is the basic principle used in 12g to .22 inserts and many others of such kind just mentioned above... crapuger decided to go alternative way, the typical and predominant now, unfortunately, in modern N. American engineering BAD+expensive+complex. The other people were telling me that Canadian firearm manufacturing is advanced... sure it is so advanced that prices are 3000+ for precision rifles... sure they cost it and those engineers are may be very good... but what about affordable + reliable+ mechanically sound + mechanically logical and serviceable? Hello....? Silence....
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Are you for real?
Do you understand that the 9mm Glocks and Sigs are straight blowback actions? Therefore easy to convert to straight blowback rimfire ?
And do be a lamb and show me where is the gas piston on your 22 Baikal. I'm eagerly waiting but won't hold my breath.
 
OkayShooter said:
3 guns to replace 1. 1 had a scope mount drilled crooked, second the front sight was crooked, and rear sight busted. Second gun shouldn't even been sent to me in the first place. Because they knew it was crooked, and tried to fix it good enough. All the cost of shipping. Even lower end guns, you shouldn't be sending out with crooked anything.
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Fair enough, but the lowend crap from ALL companies suffer from QC issues... that is why they are cheap... and cheap seems to be what many want... false economy to my mind.
 
hoytcanon said:
Disagree... Snapshots has been excellent to deal with.
QC is an issue on the lowend guns, not so much the others. But, the other companies are cheaping out just as much on lowend stuff... it is a shame to be on the sidelines watching the "race to the bottom."
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You disagree that OkayShooter and others have had bad service from Snapshots?
What do you base that assumption on? The fact that you got good service? Do you think he is lying to us?

I'm sure some people have gotten good service from Snapshot just like I know other people have gotten bad service. I know about the bad because it's happened to me in both official languages on several occasions via email and phone . They are quick to blame Ruger for their woes but some of the issues I had were all in house and based on poor communication.

Even though I know they are capable of bad service, I could easily imagine them being capable of good service, specially if they have the parts on hand and can simply mail them out quickly.

I do agree with your comment on the "Race to the Bottom" mentality of modern manufacturing and not just guns.
 
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