Show off your Ruger No.1's
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longbeardking
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- New Hampshire USA
top is a #1 S in 45-70 130 pre fix and the bottom is a #1B in 30-06. Also pre fix 130
Weatherby2
CGN Regular
- Location
- British Columbia
Hi guys, there are some nice looking rigs on this post!
I have always enjoyed single shots, and have only owned one number one over the years.
And I have had the chance to temporarily adopt a few others to try out for a spell.
I cannot say they were not a pleasure to shoot! I like their lines and feel. But I was never ever satisfied with their accuracy.
Now I don't know if my expectations are out of line, but I feel that a single shot should undeniably be able to consistently shoot a minimum of 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 MOA at 100 yards or better.
Is that unreasonable for these rifles?
None of these rifles I have ever seen in person, or shot myself have been capable of this.
I know there will be many guys being defensive about this, but understand that I have put my time in testing this. And only want my number one to perform like so many “claim” they do.
Have I just been this unlucky to never see a great shooting number one?
It is very disappointing because I really have a soft spot for the design of these rifles.
I have been suspicious that the fore-stock hanger design may be the major contributing reason for the rifles I have experienced the lack of precision.
I recently bought a 35 whelan and tried everything under the sun to get it to shoot inside 2”. No dice, as they say. The groups are ALL vertically strung. I have had the fore-stock free floated and glass bedded, still no improvement.
If rebarreling the rifle would help, I would be willing to do that, but is it worth the risk that it has something to do with the fore stock? I don't want to waste that much money for no guarantee of improvement.
Every browning 1885, and B78 I have ever had has always been well under MOA without much effort at all.
Any ideas out there? I would love to solve the issue, and not have to sell the last number one I have to find something more accurate.
If a rifle doesn't shoot well, I lose interest almost immediately if it doesn't respond to most accuracy related adjustments and reloading.
At this point, I don't know if I can justify getting a different number one just to have the same issue.
I have always enjoyed single shots, and have only owned one number one over the years.
And I have had the chance to temporarily adopt a few others to try out for a spell.
I cannot say they were not a pleasure to shoot! I like their lines and feel. But I was never ever satisfied with their accuracy.
Now I don't know if my expectations are out of line, but I feel that a single shot should undeniably be able to consistently shoot a minimum of 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 MOA at 100 yards or better.
Is that unreasonable for these rifles?
None of these rifles I have ever seen in person, or shot myself have been capable of this.
I know there will be many guys being defensive about this, but understand that I have put my time in testing this. And only want my number one to perform like so many “claim” they do.
Have I just been this unlucky to never see a great shooting number one?
It is very disappointing because I really have a soft spot for the design of these rifles.
I have been suspicious that the fore-stock hanger design may be the major contributing reason for the rifles I have experienced the lack of precision.
I recently bought a 35 whelan and tried everything under the sun to get it to shoot inside 2”. No dice, as they say. The groups are ALL vertically strung. I have had the fore-stock free floated and glass bedded, still no improvement.
If rebarreling the rifle would help, I would be willing to do that, but is it worth the risk that it has something to do with the fore stock? I don't want to waste that much money for no guarantee of improvement.
Every browning 1885, and B78 I have ever had has always been well under MOA without much effort at all.
Any ideas out there? I would love to solve the issue, and not have to sell the last number one I have to find something more accurate.
If a rifle doesn't shoot well, I lose interest almost immediately if it doesn't respond to most accuracy related adjustments and reloading.
At this point, I don't know if I can justify getting a different number one just to have the same issue.
I've only owned two, but they have shot well. One will start to string vertically after 4-5 shots but that doesn't bother me.
Message "double gun" or "hoytcanon" on this forum or "catnthehat" if you are on Alberta Outdoorsman.
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Weatherby2
CGN Regular
- Location
- British Columbia
Was out doing load development today and this was my first 3 shot group outta my 45-70.
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Shoots like that and it's already in the EE?????
The Ruger #1 can be made to shoot quite well. I have one with a very heavy Ron Smith barrel that has shot 10 shot groups of under a minute of angle at 200m with cast bullets. It has the barrel bedded to the forearm and has been restocked for benchrest shooting so is pretty different than a standard Ruger #1.
Chris.
Chris.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
Yeah, it is a .32-40. I shoot it with breech seated cast bullets and it's a really accurate rifle. The only real problem is that it has a really heavy trigger.
I will take a picture of it later today. It's pretty ugly though. I'm pretty sure that Ron put the barrel on the rifle and did the chambering, but pretty much everything else about the rifle is 100% backyard gunplumber
Chris.
I will take a picture of it later today. It's pretty ugly though. I'm pretty sure that Ron put the barrel on the rifle and did the chambering, but pretty much everything else about the rifle is 100% backyard gunplumber
Chris.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
That's great. Love the cartridge. My 32-40 is built on a Lee Enfield with a McGowen barrel. Good to see folks working with 32-40's.
JJ
Love the cartridge. My 32-40 is built on a Lee Enfield with a McGowen barrel. Good to see folks working with 32-40's.JJ
Yeah it's a neat little cartridge for cast bullet shooting. Here is a picture of the rifle and a target shot at 200m. The bullet is a Hoch 200gr nose pour and the powder used was the now discontinued SR-4759. I haven't used the rifle in a couple of years. I'll have to mess with it later this year again.
Chris.
Chris.
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- Southern Vancouver Island
That looks just dandy to me. She be a "business rifle" after all. Can't beetch about the minute of grey squirrel grouping either. Nice!
I run 4759 & 5744 out my squirrel bomber & still have enough 4759 on hand for the near future. I toss Bullet Barn 165 gr hardcast, plain base RNFP from
both of my 32-40's. Me other one being a Win 94 from 1910 with 26" barrel.
Happy shootin'
JJ
I run 4759 & 5744 out my squirrel bomber & still have enough 4759 on hand for the near future. I toss Bullet Barn 165 gr hardcast, plain base RNFP from
both of my 32-40's. Me other one being a Win 94 from 1910 with 26" barrel.
Happy shootin'
JJ
That group is actually a lot smaller than a squirrel . It's 1.75" at 200m, so just a little more than 3/4 of a minute.
I just posted it to show that a Ruger #1 can be made to shoot well. I don't know about with a factory barrel, although I have shot Ruger #1's in .45-70's that shot pretty decently. But not as well as this one
Chris.
. It's 1.75" at 200m, so just a little more than 3/4 of a minute.I just posted it to show that a Ruger #1 can be made to shoot well. I don't know about with a factory barrel, although I have shot Ruger #1's in .45-70's that shot pretty decently. But not as well as this one
Chris.
