Soo my Type 97 just blew up on me

icelink said:
A friend a few years back got a little heavy on a charge in his SW 629 44 Mag, he blew out the cylinder wall and bent the frame. He was very lucky...If you admit to shooting reloads. Its void. He sent the gun to a SW warranty center saying it was factory Ammo. They fixed the gun and returned it with a two page letter on the evils of shooting reloads. Do you want a new gun or don't you?
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The price of every new gun is marginally higher because of replacement guns sent to lying bastards who are too incompetent to reload safely. They're the same type of douchebags who will lie about using overcharged rounds when their gun blows up and will be first in line with a lawsuit if they are injured. When the company decides it's cheaper to throw the douchebag a few bucks to settle the cost gets passed along to consumers through higher prices.
 
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icelink said:
Glad your ok that's unreal! How would the warranty center know anyways if they were reloads or not being fired.....of course when you send it in tell them it was factory ammo....I hope it wasn't a site sponsor and hope they dont see this thread with you saying you were using reloaded ammo......most importantly you are ok.....secondly I hope you get a new T97 outta the deal
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You are aware site sponsors are not idiots. They're like business and check things out esp if they will suspect they are lying.

Yup ignore list you go. Maybe ban list You should go.


To the OP glad your okay, thing I feared when I owned a T97.
 
Glad to know your ok! That reiterate what I said earlier and was one of the reasons I sold mine, it just didn't feel safe, there is onlybplastic were metal should be to protect your face.
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Well I think I am allowed to criticize the t97 as I own one and many other norinco guns.

I think at the price point its a good buy, it has alot of things going for it! But to say it feels hefty and the polimer feels solid absolutely not!

I had a norc m14 blow up and the barrel harpooned 15 yard on me after 4 rounds new from the box; I will be tentative shooting my first rounds true the t97 tomorrow. If ever there is a catastrophic failure with those bullpup rifle there is NO protection at all for the shooters face like my rfb does and I will add tha the t97 feels like a airsoft compare to my rfb.

But for the price its probably going to be a keeper!

rally guy#
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Didn't like the safety, had ftf problems didn't want to cut it up to install a ftu , didn't like how hight an optic would sit on it and definitely didn't like the lack of protection from the plastic over tge carrier. So sold it to bad :(
 
Good to see your not dead :0
Now where do you get parts for a norinco?
Probably cheaper to pitch it and buy a new one.
(Or buy quality before you buy another norinco!?)
 
snooze98k said:
Good to see your not dead :0
Now where do you get parts for a norinco?
Probably cheaper to pitch it and buy a new one.
(Or buy quality before you buy another norinco!?)
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Not really a faire statement alot of there product are not as bad as there penned to be. For the money you can't really beat there ar 1911 and even there pump are preaty good!

KEY WORD! for the price.
 
I am glad you are okay, however while the possibility of an overcharge has been mentioned in the posts, what about if you had a squid load which ended up blocking the barrel. In this case you might not have been aware of it since you had the gas setting at zero and where manually cycling the action.
 
tootall said:
The compressed load load due to set back bullet theory is a possibility too.
That would explain both factory and reloads having blown up.
It would also explain the "over pressure" that NS says caused it.

The bigger issue is WHY does the T-97 have so many crunched rounds? I have had it myself, but fortunately they didnt feed in at all.
Colin, have you had any crunched rounds before?
And have you polished the feed ramps at all? (I have not.)
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Having the projectile forced back into the casing when loaded does elevate chamber pressure this is what the result is when a cartridge is fired , the powder is compressed this changes the burn rate to a slower or reduced rate rather than the burn rate for the given powder by the manufacturer although not in its self as dangerous . Now add that the when the bullet is fired it is not in perfect alignment with the bore it does have a longer jump to meet the lands this causes a increase in the cartridge case volume which also effectively increases your chamber pressure . When the projecdtile hits the lands in the barrel a pressure spike ensues as a direct result of the projectile transitioning to the rifling it is in effect slowing down with Chamber pressure now exceeding the SAMMI specifacations a catastrophic failure may result
 
rally guy said:
Not really a faire statement alot of there product are not as bad as there penned to be. For the money you can't really beat there ar 1911 and even there pump are preaty good!

KEY WORD! for the price.
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Does the price include surgery?

I own 2 Norinco rifles a CQ-A and an M305.
Each of those rifles were my first in that particular platform.
Once I was comfortable in the manual of arms of each system and in the disassembly and reassembly I went on to purchase higher quality rifles.

I now own a Springfield Armory M1A National Match and several high end AR-15's

I can personally tell you that Norinco quality isn't even close to that of their american counterparts.

Before anyone starts with the M305 forged receivers I will admit that they do make a fine receiver but the build quality of the rifle leaves a lot to be desired.

As far as the OP's rifle is concerned my bet would be bullet setback causing an overpressure situation.
This is just a guess from a guy sitting behind a keyboard half way across the country.
 
I would like to hear from the OP on bullet type and crimping. This to me seams like a logical possibility. Although, he did say he was manually cycling the action which would tend to give the OP a little more feel of the clambering process.

Does your bullet have a crimp grove? Did your rifle cycle properly?
 
Travel240z said:
I would like to hear from the OP on bullet type and crimping. This to me seams like a logical possibility. Although, he did say he was manually cycling the action which would tend to give the OP a little more feel of the clambering process.

Does your bullet have a crimp grove? Did your rifle cycle properly?
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I do crimp my bullets with the Lee crimper die, my bullets vary this batch does not have cannules. I only recently had this gun, so this was my 4th time with it, no bullet setback issues so far.
 
Savage said:
Having the projectile forced back into the casing when loaded does elevate chamber pressure this is what the result is when a cartridge is fired , the powder is compressed this changes the burn rate to a slower or reduced rate rather than the burn rate for the given powder by the manufacturer although not in its self as dangerous . Now add that the when the bullet is fired it is not in perfect alignment with the bore it does have a longer jump to meet the lands this causes a increase in the cartridge case volume which also effectively increases your chamber pressure . When the projecdtile hits the lands in the barrel a pressure spike ensues as a direct result of the projectile transitioning to the rifling it is in effect slowing down with Chamber pressure now exceeding the SAMMI specifacations a catastrophic failure may result
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now that is a good explanation, thank you sir!
 
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