Standing Offhand Challenge 100yd/100M 4rd groups Center Fire

JEC said:
The different shooting discilpines are simply different and direct skill comparisons are moot. All too often, do we hear a bit of "snobery"... with off-hand / silhouette shooters feeling they are superior to F-class...who feel they are better than the LR Benchrest crowd...who belittle the Short BR guys...who claim that off-hand is a waste of time. I really don't understand, one group laying claim to being the best. The bottom line here is those who practice their style the most, are likely among the best shooters in that style. The bottom line for rifles, is that custom typically out performs factory. The bottom line for ammo is that tuned reloads usually out perform the stuff off-the-shelf.
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The most logical post in this thread so far.
 
Good shooting Dogleg. Just started reading Jeff Cooper's "The Art off the Rifle" and this is what he would call good marksmanship. I gotta get out the Model 70 this week and dust off some Dugga Boy ammo. Only 5 weeks, one day and 7 hours to takeoff ! I'll try to post some pics of the results.
 
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redmist25 said:
Good shooting Dogleg. Just started reading Jeff Cooper's "The Art off the Rifle" and this is what he would call good marksmanship. I gotta get out the Model 70 this week and dust off some Dugga Boy ammo. Only 5 weeks, one day and 7 hours to takeoff ! I'll try to post some pics of the results.
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Where are you off to? I've got a Moz buffalo/hippo thing going for October, and an Australian cull in August as a warm up. Probably find a buffalo or two there as well.
 
Off to Zimbabwe by Vic Falls for Buff, Eland and Sable. Looked seriously at Moz but ended up getting a real deal on a hunt at the SCI dinner. Got 10 day Buff and Eland including trophy fees and an observer for under 10K. Sable was out of reach normally but the wife is getting me one for my 50th birthday !! Now I just have 5 weeks to learn to shoot :sniper:
 
Update 13 months later

Still shooting offhand@100M. Got a longer sling that I can wrap my support arm through and then pull tight across my chest by standing up straight and elevating my shooting arm parallel to the ground to create a good butt pocket. Shot a 4rnd group @100M yesterday that measured 3.4" center to center. No sling still hovers around 6" at best. It was the last one of 6 groups, so next time (after some dry fire position practice) I'll go with that technique. It sure felt much more solid than anything else I've tried. Doing lots of off hand shooting with the 22 also. Getting better at hitting the turkey off hand@60M, damn is that thing small.
 
I find it easier to let my right shoulder drop. Pay attention to your foot positioning. I'm sure the there's a shooting coach that would laugh at my technique, but what I do is point my left foot at the target then put my weight on the one foot. Then I put my right foot back down wherever it lands for a nature relaxed balance with that alignment. When your body is aligned it helps the rifle point itself.

I'm probably not explaining it well, but there is natural position that your rifle would point to if you shouldered it with your eyes closed and then opened them. Arrange your feet s that natural point of aim is straight at the target. For silhouette make the natural point of aim the center of the bank of targets.
 
I am going to give this a go. Just got a new .270 and got it sighted in. I've only had to make a few offhand shots while hunting and most of those were under 100yds. The few shots that were longer that I couldn't use anything for a rest, I go down on one knee and rest my elbow on the other or sit and rest both elbows on my knees. This could be fun and any excuse to shoot and practice makes me happy.
 
I like it because for me it isn't a gear game. Until yesterday the best offhand group I had ever shot was with an iron sighted Moisin cut down with a hacksaw sans vice and crowned with a countersink bit from Home Hardware in my cordless drill. Around 5 1/4"@100M.
 
Found the right thread at last, ended up doing the other challenge / standing 7 shots into a 6" circle, because shooting's fun. The seven rounds went about 3 3/4", the four 3 1/4" (I shot a fifth round at that just after and it stayed in the 3 1/4"). Don't mind any duplicated words below just copied and pasted the other post I put in the wrong thread.

Finally got it done, needed some Christmas shooting with a new toy, it was four shots, right? I'll go check the first page again and shoot another round if necessary.

Kimber Adirondack .308, 2-7x33 Leupold, managed 4 into 3 1/4" at 100. The tighter centered group is rested from last night, as I was sighting it in for the first time then.





This is with the fifth round fired.

 
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