Striker fired choices

Glocks are great for a lot of reason. I certainly appreciate them. But not all those reasons are relevant to everyone. Arsenal is makes a top shelf product. It is an option for some if you are willing to stretch the budget. 5oz is not out of line with other choices.

And 5 additional ounces from other options still makes them fat pigs. The Arsenal I shot had repeated failures in 100 rounds and the trigger was brutal.
 
And 5 additional ounces from other options still makes them fat pigs. The Arsenal I shot had repeated failures in 100 rounds and the trigger was brutal.

I’ve shot a Gen1 Strike One. I didn’t mind the trigger and didn’t notice the weight. Trigger definitely had a different feel to a Glock. The only issue I had was the repeated failures and from 2 different guns. I’ve heard the new 2.0 is completely improved but I’ve not tried one yet.
 
Sure of which? The weight is high, it's 5+ ounces heavier than a Glock 19 but nearly identical in size. Support? Who carries them, who makes holsters, where do I find magazines? The company has already changed hands/management once.

Interammo import and distribute as well as retail the pistols and provides warranty and all support. To name a few, Wanstalls, RDSC, T&T Arms, Phoenix retail them. Magazines you also could get either from Interammo or contact your local dealer and ask them to contact Interammo. The holsters are made in many places including in the USA by several companies. If you do a quick search you will find them, e.g.:
ht tps://standardcousa.com
ht tps://www.rain6.com/shop-arsenal-firearms-and-accessories/?cat=ARCHON%20FIREARMS%20Type%20B%20ACCESSORIES

Sights are exactly the same as Glock sights, so plenty of choices. Company hands were never changed. They rebranded for the USA market due to a legal dispute with Arsenal Bulgaria. Again on the USA market only the pistol is branded as Archon Type B, for the rest of the world it's Arsenal Firearms Stryk B. You could find more information on the owner's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dimitry_666/?hl=en and the manufacturer website https://arsenalfirearms.eu/en/strykb/

And yes, the weight is more than Glock 19 because Stryk B features a full length steel rails and I believe longer slide with 109mm barrel
 
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Lol @ 5 ounces making a polymer gun a pig.

Let me break it down. Adding an additional 5oz to the gun over a similarly sized gun makes it a fat pig. Please don't waste my time with "more weight aids in recoil control". If you can't manage recoil without the use of an overweight pistol then you either need training or a new activity.

Interammo import and distribute as well as retail the pistols and provides warranty and all support. To name a few, Wanstalls, RDSC, T&T Arms, Phoenix retail them. Magazines you also could get either from Interammo or contact your local dealer and ask them to contact Interammo. The holsters are made in many places including in the USA by several companies. If you do a quick search you will find them, e.g.:
ht tps://standardcousa.com
ht tps://www.rain6.com/shop-arsenal-firearms-and-accessories/?cat=ARCHON%20FIREARMS%20Type%20B%20ACCESSORIES

Sights are exactly the same as Glock sights, so plenty of choices. Company hands were never changed. They rebranded for the USA market due to a legal dispute with Arsenal Bulgaria. Again on the USA market only the pistol is branded as Archon Type B, for the rest of the world it's Arsenal Firearms Stryk B. You could find more information on the owner's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dimitry_666/?hl=en and the manufacturer website https://arsenalfirearms.eu/en/strykb/

And yes, the weight is more than Glock 19 because Stryk B features a full length steel rails and I believe longer slide with 109mm barrel

So you're saying magazines are a special order item, not something available at most retailers, meaning it's not a popular gun which means it has little support. Yes the second attempt at the design uses Glock sized sights, wonder why?? Rebrand, change hands all the same. The original design is dead and gone even though some claimed it was the best design ever and would kill Glock.:rolleyes: Neither Wanstalls nor RDSC has magazines in stock nor even listed.

Rain who?? Oh you mean a custom holster manufacturer right. Can you list any major brand name holster companies that support the pistol? Like Galco, RCS, Bianchi, Safariland or Blade tech?

Curious what this pistol does better than other more popular offerings at nearly twice the price?
 
HK SFP9 or Walther P99 is what I would recommend based on my personal experience.
I have not spent significant time with the S&W M&P9 or the SiG 320.
Beretta APX is entirely forgettable, bought and sold one.
Glocks are great utilitarian tools and can be made into whatever you want them to be. They are the 10/22 or AR15 of the handgun world.
 
Let me break it down. Adding an additional 5oz to the gun over a similarly sized gun makes it a fat pig. Please don't waste my time with "more weight aids in recoil control". If you can't manage recoil without the use of an overweight pistol then you either need training or a new activity.

1) if 5 ounces is cumbersome there's something serously wrong with you physically. 2) you're argument about recoil management is actually an argument with physics.
 
Let me be the d*ck here. How many here actually know what to look for with regards to grip, or are you simply going off of what "feels good"??:popCorn:

That's one of the reasons the SFP9 is the better choice, 3 different backstrap sizes and 3 different side panel sizes guarantees one of the most comfortable in the hand pistols out there. I like Glock, have been shooting them since day 1, but the SFP9 is just superior in that field.

It is the most comfortable gun to use when shooting a squib out of my barrel! (Sarcasm for those that don't get the joke)
 
Walther Q5 Match is a decent choice. It comes with a fully adjustable rear sight that's on a plate which can be removed and replaced with 1 of 3 other plates for attaching different red dot sights. I use mine for IPSC Production Optics division. Great gun, very accurate.
 
1) if 5 ounces is cumbersome there's something serously wrong with you physically. 2) you're argument about recoil management is actually an argument with physics.

You're note getting the point. There's no reason to add weight to a pistol for zero benefit. A heavy gun is not your friend. Yes you're right, physics says there will be a change in muzzle flip due to weight. The reality is that the amount of change won't make one bit of difference to the shooter. Either you can shoot or you can't. Extra weight doesn't make you a better shooter it just makes the gun heavier.

That's one of the reasons the SFP9 is the better choice, 3 different backstrap sizes and 3 different side panel sizes guarantees one of the most comfortable in the hand pistols out there. I like Glock, have been shooting them since day 1, but the SFP9 is just superior in that field.

It is the most comfortable gun to use when shooting a squib out of my barrel! (Sarcasm for those that don't get the joke)

Better choice? So the important factor is how it "feels" in your hand? If that's your stance then you clearly don't know what to look for in a proper grip.
 
You're note getting the point. There's no reason to add weight to a pistol for zero benefit. A heavy gun is not your friend. Yes you're right, physics says there will be a change in muzzle flip due to weight. The reality is that the amount of change won't make one bit of difference to the shooter. Either you can shoot or you can't. Extra weight doesn't make you a better shooter it just makes the gun heavier.

Any weight will aid in recoil management regardless the level of shooter. A better shooter is more likely to notice a small difference than someone who sucks, but whether it's noticed or not, it's there.

Its kind of hilarious that on a Canadian gun forum of all places is where you'd try to make the argument that lighter is always better.
 
You're note getting the point. There's no reason to add weight to a pistol for zero benefit. A heavy gun is not your friend. Yes you're right, physics says there will be a change in muzzle flip due to weight. The reality is that the amount of change won't make one bit of difference to the shooter. Either you can shoot or you can't. Extra weight doesn't make you a better shooter it just makes the gun heavier.



Better choice? So the important factor is how it "feels" in your hand? If that's your stance then you clearly don't know what to look for in a proper grip.

Lets hear your expert opinion, since I dont think Ive ever seen you agree with anyone on this forum, maybe we should just start an AB Blaster sub forum for all of your teachings! Lol

Nobody wants something that feels like a brick in their hand. Ive owned and shot and regularly carry a multitude of different firearms, and the HK SFP9 is by far the most comfortable to shoot. Des that equate to better accuracy? Thats debatable, and depends on more factors than just "feel", but its not something to dismiss.
 
Walther PPQ M2 5” or PPQ Match! Hands down the best trigger of any striker fired HG.

For the win.

I would add for accuracy and trigger reset the the PPQ rules but not by much. In any order my experience, from shooting the pistols the following would be a must look:

PPQ M2 or Match - aside from colour the triggers are the same, build quality, and accuracy. Changing the sights if the shooter decides to is a five minute task for both the front and rear sight

SIG 320 - for the trigger, accuracy, modularlity and build quality. This pistol is going to be around for the next 35 years with more support than anyone will ever need due to the US Army contract. The early teething problems have been sorted out.

M&P Gen 1 or 2 - price, grip, Apex trigger, multiple variants and solid frame.

Springfield XD & XDM Series, a sleeper in a crowded field.

If the new Gen 5 Glock is significantly better than the average of the past, then the Gen 5's are worth a look. 1- thru 4 are dated compared to the above pistols and some have issues for high use users.

I have not shot the HK models, the Beretta APX or some of the others mentioned above.

All of the above are dead nuts reliable. All are more capable than most shooters. For playing the action shooting games, which is all we really can do with our pistols other than shooting at dots on paper.... all will do.

For bush carry, based upon a respected friends comments, the Glock in 10MM. When you really need a pistol in a hurry.

To the OP buy what you can afford and like. Every pistol has their fan club. If you are just starting out buy a used Gen 1 or 2 M&P and shoot the heck out of the gun. Spend the $300 or more you would have to spend on some of the others on ammo and have some fun.

Take Care

Bob
ps rkm56 - perfect response re: physics LOL.
 
Lets hear your expert opinion, since I dont think Ive ever seen you agree with anyone on this forum, maybe we should just start an AB Blaster sub forum for all of your teachings! Lol

Nobody wants something that feels like a brick in their hand. Ive owned and shot and regularly carry a multitude of different firearms, and the HK SFP9 is by far the most comfortable to shoot. Des that equate to better accuracy? Thats debatable, and depends on more factors than just "feel", but its not something to dismiss.

Feel has no bearing on the fundamentals of marksmanship. Comfort is not a factor in the performance of the firearm. Those that complain that a Glock or Hk or SIG are "uncomfortable" are simply soft handed looking for an excuse to explain their poor performance or dismiss the firearm. For the plinker comfort can be an important factor in choosing a firearm but it is not a requirement for performance and should never be expressed as such. Any time I hear people discussing feel or comfort with a firearm it is a clear sign they have no clue what they're doing.
 
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