Swiss Arms addicts sound off
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LOL... don't mind that guy, he's usually quite rude.
The Swiss Arms rifles basically divide up into three models, with some variations to each configuration.
There is a non-restricted, full length rifle available with a black, green (more of a grey-green) or blue receiver. The barrel length is ~21". For quick ID, count the vent holes in the handguard, it has 5.
There are two restricted models available with greyn receivers, the CQB and the Carbine. They have ~9" and ~14" barrels respectively. The carbine has 3 vent holes, the CQB is easy to pick out. See my photos above for examples of each of these models.
There is also a sniper variant of the rifle-length model but it is unobtainium in extremis.
Have a look at their website for more information. Keep in mind that the rifles available in Canada, while cosmetically identical, have somewhat different internals than the SG55x models.
If you have any other questions I would be happy to help.
Cheers!
LOL... don't mind that guy, he's usually quite rude.
The Swiss Arms rifles basically divide up into three models, with some variations to each configuration.
There is a non-restricted, full length rifle available with a black, green (more of a grey-green) or blue receiver. The barrel length is ~21". For quick ID, count the vent holes in the handguard, it has 5.
There are two restricted models available with greyn receivers, the CQB and the Carbine. They have ~9" and ~14" barrels respectively. The carbine has 3 vent holes, the CQB is easy to pick out. See my photos above for examples of each of these models.
There is also a sniper variant of the rifle-length model but it is unobtainium in extremis.
Have a look at their website for more information. Keep in mind that the rifles available in Canada, while cosmetically identical, have somewhat different internals than the SG55x models.
If you have any other questions I would be happy to help.
Cheers!
No worries, I don't take anyone seriously that has their head burried between their butt cheeks. And thanks for the info, they all look like such pieces of artwork.
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We have made it clear to members that berating other is not an attitude shared by the CGN community. Moderators wont' give out infraction points this time for the language - but please make sure that knowledge sharing is the reason we are here. There are no stupid questions to ask - it is only stupid to NOT ask the questions.
Not sure 'exactly' what info you're after, maybe this will help.
They have a 1/16"Øx3/16" screw that has the head cut off, more-or-less flush with the magazine body...
...There's no deep magazine well to interfere with the slight projection.
The screw also appears to be glued/ epoxied in place.
They're pinned to a c-hair over 5 rounds (not 5.5), however they seat easily on a closed bolt when loaded to pinned capacity.
If you want a picture or some other info don't be shy.
Cheers
:edit: FWIW, the screw may not actually have the head cut-off. It could be one of those little headless screws with a socket for a hex driver where the head should be. I think the glue then fills in the socket to prevent easy removal. The more I look, the more this appears to be the case.
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Highlights of the Swiss Arms rifles based on my PE-90 black target model.
1) Non-restricted rifle
2) Military service style rifle including a military barrel profile complete with flash hider
3) AK "inspired" action for reliability
4) Finely machined
5) High level of fit/finish
6) Piston system from the ground up, not a retrofit
7) A decent out of the box trigger
8) Very good out of the box accuracy, especially for a non bull barreled service rifle.
The Swiss arms rifle is very well thought out. I think this gets overlooked a lot. The folding stock is the only folder that I like. The trigger guard folds out of the way for shooting with gloves, and there is an integrated bipod. These aren't extras, they come stock. If you were to add these extras to an HK SL8 the cost would match or most likely exceed that of the Swiss Arms.
One other point, are the take down pins. They are truly no tool required pins. Push the button on the top and pull them out. I haven't been able to figure out why every firearms manufacturer doesn't use this system. It beats the heck out of what the other rifles are using.
The flaws:
1) Sticker shock (Although not bad when you realize what you're getting)
2) @$@#$ charging handle on the right hand side. You would think if the Germans could get it right back in 1942 that we wouldn't be stuck with the charging handle on the right. I guess we can thank the Russians for that one. Oh look we didn't copy the STG44, the charging handle is on the right side not the left!!!! Too bad they didn't realize the Germans had the handle on the left for a reason. Rant off.
3) Weight. But this is a trade off. It's well built because of the materials used which generally weighs more. I don't personally find it too heavy, but it's definitely not a really light service rifle. The AR rifle is much lighter providing you aren't one of those guys that likes to mount everything and anything on the front rails.
4) 5 round mags only, and they rock in IE AK style. Which means the mag release is also AK style. I don't mind this, but I do prefer the AR style and the mag release button of the AR.
The ergonomics on the Swiss rifle aren't bad. If the cocking handle was on the left, and the mags went straight in with a mag release button then it would be perfect. The ambi safety and location is very good. The bolt release is nice too.
top to bottom/left to right: DPMS LR-308 ie AR-10 style rifle, Swiss Arms PE-90 black target model, Stag AR-15 2T. They play well together.
1) Non-restricted rifle
2) Military service style rifle including a military barrel profile complete with flash hider
3) AK "inspired" action for reliability
4) Finely machined
5) High level of fit/finish
6) Piston system from the ground up, not a retrofit
7) A decent out of the box trigger
8) Very good out of the box accuracy, especially for a non bull barreled service rifle.
The Swiss arms rifle is very well thought out. I think this gets overlooked a lot. The folding stock is the only folder that I like. The trigger guard folds out of the way for shooting with gloves, and there is an integrated bipod. These aren't extras, they come stock. If you were to add these extras to an HK SL8 the cost would match or most likely exceed that of the Swiss Arms.
One other point, are the take down pins. They are truly no tool required pins. Push the button on the top and pull them out. I haven't been able to figure out why every firearms manufacturer doesn't use this system. It beats the heck out of what the other rifles are using.
The flaws:
1) Sticker shock (Although not bad when you realize what you're getting)
2) @$@#$ charging handle on the right hand side. You would think if the Germans could get it right back in 1942 that we wouldn't be stuck with the charging handle on the right. I guess we can thank the Russians for that one. Oh look we didn't copy the STG44, the charging handle is on the right side not the left!!!! Too bad they didn't realize the Germans had the handle on the left for a reason. Rant off.
3) Weight. But this is a trade off. It's well built because of the materials used which generally weighs more. I don't personally find it too heavy, but it's definitely not a really light service rifle. The AR rifle is much lighter providing you aren't one of those guys that likes to mount everything and anything on the front rails.
4) 5 round mags only, and they rock in IE AK style. Which means the mag release is also AK style. I don't mind this, but I do prefer the AR style and the mag release button of the AR.
The ergonomics on the Swiss rifle aren't bad. If the cocking handle was on the left, and the mags went straight in with a mag release button then it would be perfect. The ambi safety and location is very good. The bolt release is nice too.
top to bottom/left to right: DPMS LR-308 ie AR-10 style rifle, Swiss Arms PE-90 black target model, Stag AR-15 2T. They play well together.
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- Port Perry/Toronto
I hate you Nemo!!!!
I want your job, seriously....
5+ P210's, X-Fives, AIAW, DSR-1, ERMA SR-100 , Mauser SR-93, PS90
and now a SIG Sniper!!?!!!
I'm curious though Nemo, what are the markings on the side of the rifle? Does it say "classic green" like all the others?
I want your job, seriously....
5+ P210's, X-Fives, AIAW, DSR-1, ERMA SR-100 , Mauser SR-93, PS90
and now a SIG Sniper!!?!!!
I'm curious though Nemo, what are the markings on the side of the rifle? Does it say "classic green" like all the others?
Lucky bastard, Nemo!
Not too many of those around...
...worth a left nut or two I'll wager.
I didn't know it was a "competition".
I'm sure everyone here is happy to own a Swiss rifle, or in some cases more than one. There are guys online here, who don't post what they have, yet I happen to know they have some very impressive firearms. It's not about bragging. I for one, all joking aside do appreciate being able to see firearms that I'm unlikely to own, or even see at a range. I wish more would post what they have. That being said, I don't feel like it's a competition.
