The Templar Thread, 5.56 by Crusader Arms / Spectre LTD

Legitimate concerns.

Weight isn't great but it's far from terrible. It handles well.
Crusader seems to be struggling with ramping up their operations and definitely lacks a solid customer support system. I do, however, know of a number of people (including myself) who received rifles with no real issues.

It's a solid rifle though.

That is good to hear. I can handle a little extra weight as long as it’s somewhat balanced. Looks front heavy which is my concern
 
That is good to hear. I can handle a little extra weight as long as it’s somewhat balanced. Looks front heavy which is my concern

It has a mid length gas system, which would throw some of the weight forward. This is somewhat counterbalanced by the BCG being chonky and overbuilt for durability, which would shift the balance point back. Would be curious if someone with the rifle could tell us where on it the center of balance is...
 
The balance point for my Templar configured with an LPVO, VFG and Light is right at the Front Take-Down Pin. In other words, it is perfectly balanced. It is chunky at 6.1 kg / 13.3 lbs fully kitted, but the balance helps mitigate the weight. It handles well and is still quite lively in the hands.


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Given the Templar is the most over-engineered and heaviest of the 180 platforms already, I wonder if it would be the best candidate for a stretching to to .308/Creedmore? Even if this things go south here, Crusader could sell it in the States as a heavier alternative to the Ruger SFAR, as it shares most of that platforms standard AR lower parts compatibility (standard AR trigger, safety/cylinder, pistol grip and optionally stock), or as a SCAR Heavy/SIG Spear Heavy quality but budget friendly alternative. If things go well in Canada, it would provide a conventional rifle alternative to the Tavor. Thoughts?
 
It looks like an ACR. And weren't 180 platforms mentioned in the latest ban? Seems odd a company would spend so much to engineer and manufacture a rifle they most likely won't make any money off of.
 
It looks like an ACR. And weren't 180 platforms mentioned in the latest ban? Seems odd a company would spend so much to engineer and manufacture a rifle they most likely won't make any money off of.

C21 and the "Evergreen Definisition" of an "Assault-Style Firearm" (ASF) did not exist when the Templar was developed and brought to market. At the time, it was developed as a Canadian Firearms Act-compliant alternative to the ASFs banned under the May 2020 OIC, as the government itself had sugested be done. It is only with the amendments to C21 that the Lieberals revealed their intention to ban EVERY centerfire semi-auto firearms in Canada, plus a bunch more that do not even meet the evergreen definition of an ASF. It was only after the Templar was developed and brought to market that the Lieberals revealed their intentions WRT the eventual ban on all self-loading long-guns. Bastards.
 
I'll ask a very vague question with little context. Would I regret selling my X95 for this rifle? I do love my X95. I just prefer a conventional rifle setup.
 
Wished it was easier to get a hold of this company to buy a gun from them. Trying with credit card and it keeps telling me it’s invalid even though credit company says there’s no problem.
 
Wished it was easier to get a hold of this company to buy a gun from them. Trying with credit card and it keeps telling me it’s invalid even though credit company says there’s no problem.

I PMed Spectre Steve a link to your post; hopefully he will get back to you. Not sure of Crusader/Spectre LTD will be going to Shot Show; if that is the case, the response could be delayed by that. Good luck!
 
that's what i was thinking to. now, maybe a Sterling R-18 for the X95. i would sell it for one of those! just my opinion though...

The x95 is reliable into thousands of rounds and a proven rifle. It's also malleable and not front heavy. I wouldn't exchange it for our 180s models no matter how gucci and well engineered they are. I would get both.
 
The x95 is reliable into thousands of rounds and a proven rifle. It's also malleable and not front heavy. I wouldn't exchange it for our 180s models no matter how gucci and well engineered they are. I would get both.

I for one, do not understand why some folks insist upon comparing apples to oranges. There is no real comparison possible between any of the rifles professionallly-designed and formally adopted for national mililtary service and our amateur-designed, domestically-manufactured AR180B derivatives. They are worlds apart. Sure, there is some performance overlap in terms of accuracy, reliability and durability, however in the bigger picture there is no fair comparison possible.

If we are going to compare the Templar to the WK-180 or its predecessor WS-MCR, or the forthcoming BCL Siberian, then fair enough. Those are all valid comparisons of platforms competing on a level playing field. Likewise, if you are going to compare anytihng to the X95 then the field ought to include the likes of the CZ Bren. Those are valid comparisons...
 
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