What happens if the OIC IS temporarily suspended on Jan. 20th?

greatwhite said:
In all seriousness what do you really think is the likelihood that the OIC will be struck down?
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The consensus in my inner circle is that it will be revoqued, on here on CGN the negativity run strong and a majority think we are done. Personnaly i am confident i will buy and shoot AR in the future. My 2 cents.
 
Thank you I will cross my fingers, so we should hear something Monday or Tuesday.

caramel said:
The consensus in my inner circle is that it will be revoqued, on here on CGN the negativity run strong and a majority think we are done. Personnaly i am confident i will buy and shoot AR in the future. My 2 cents.
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greatwhite said:
In all seriousness what do you really think is the likelihood that the OIC will be struck down?
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Only a good constitutional lawyer can answer that (many judges can guess the answer but are not allowed to discuss the issue)!
I still think that it's valid and smart legal move even if it might be a "low probability shot".

If it were to happen, I'm pulling my ATRS MS from EE, take a day off, will "blast off" and shot until my trigger finger bleeds ;)

Alex
 
I'll go sight in my surplus C8 build I finished putting together right before May 1st. I would like a NR Scorpion Evo as well.
 
Neurotoxic said:
That'll be a fun one, because the registrar actually tried to prove that it wasn't their decision, but a direct consequence of the OIC in some case I can't remember. They said that to try and have the judge refuse a s.74 hearing, IIRC. But I'm not sure.
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Yes the registrar has been doing their best, through counsel, to avoid judicial scrutiny. And to their credit they have succeeded on that point in several hearings, and lost in several.

But as a plain and simple fact, the OIC specified 9 families of firearms and listed 1500 or so variants, but did not specify the 109,000 registration certificates that are captured, so clearly someone had to fill in the blanks. By law, that person is the registrar. And to the extent that she had to make factual and legal determinations in order determine who and what was properly captured under the OiC.

Here is the Rub. Prior to May 1, the FRT said that Modern Supporters, and hundreds of other firearms were not AR variants, but after May 1st, they thought that they were. If the OIC gets struck down does that mean the SFSS no longer thinks they are ARs, or will they stand by thinking that MS are ARs. If so, the MS won't be going back to NR but to Restricted. So the Registrar will still be making factual and legal determinations, and not necessarily rolling back the FRT to before May 1. That will be a whole new chain of determinations.

The liberals didn't know what they were doing when they did this and they still don't. And the CFP is just making everything up to suit their purposes.

The chaos won't end just because the OiC gets struck down.
 
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But as a plain and simple fact, the OIC specified 9 families of firearms and listed 1500 or so variants, but did not specify the 109,000 registration certificates that are captured, so clearly someone had to fill in the blanks. By law, that person is the registrar. And to the extent that she had to make factual and legal determinations in order determine who and what was properly captured under the OiC.
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True.

Further to that point; There's no such thing as an annulment of registration certificates.

If my restricted rifle is reclassified as prohibited; Then a prohibited registration card should have been mailed to me for my newly prohibited rifle.
 
Cameron SS said:
Yes the registrar has been doing their best, through counsel, to avoid judicial scrutiny. And to their credit they have succeeded on that point in several hearings, and lost in several.

But as a plain and simple fact, the OIC specified 9 families of firearms and listed 1500 or so variants, but did not specify the 109,000 registration certificates that are captured, so clearly someone had to fill in the blanks. By law, that person is the registrar. And to the extent that she had to make factual and legal determinations in order determine who and what was properly captured under the OiC.

Here is the Rub. Prior to May 1, the FRT said that Modern Supporters, and hundreds of other firearms were not AR variants, but after May 1st, they thought that they were. If the OIC gets struck down does that mean the SFSS no longer thinks they are ARs, or will they stand by thinking that MS are ARs. If so, the MS won't be going back to NR but to Restricted. So the Registrar will still be making factual and legal determinations, and not necessarily rolling back the FRT to before May 1. That will be a whole new chain of determinations.

The liberals didn't know what they were doing when they did this and they still don't. And the CFP is just making everything up to suit their purposes.

The chaos won't end just because the OiC gets struck down.
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... The chaos wont stop but as soon it is struck down we all are going to shoot our AR's, i know it's a sure thing for me, if they are declassified, they will be used as NR. Period.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
True.

Further to that point; There's no such thing as an annulment of registration certificates.

If my restricted rifle is reclassified as prohibited; Then a prohibited registration card should have been mailed to me for my newly prohibited rifle.
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i wont be your next vict im Dexter but i doubt i will see any prohibited registration card soon for any of my previous restricted but i challenged the s74 ...
 
If OIC is suspended, the Ontario restricted transfer time is going to jump to 6 months wait, at least..
 
squidxm said:
If OIC is suspended, the Ontario restricted transfer time is going to jump to 6 months wait, at least..
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Basickly when they call it off, we will be in possesion of NR firearms. Maybe we wont have to wait for a transfert, these firearms by nullifying their registration you made them free of registration. Those are possibilities, cant way for the decision.
 
caramel said:
Basickly when they call it off, we will be in possesion of NR firearms. Maybe we wont have to wait for a transfert, these firearms by nullifying their registration you made them free of registration. Those are possibilities, cant way for the decision.
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That would only bw true if the court suspended the entire Firearms classification regulations rather than just the may 1 amendments. I highly doubt thats going to happen.
 
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