Why buy a FX 9?

thegazelle said:
Yeah, it's gone off in between mag changes - so no mag in the carbine. As for how it is locked, sometimes is it locked on last round bolt hold open, sometimes it is locked when I manually engage it. No rhyme or reason. The weird thing is it goes off when the gun is literally not being touched.
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You might want to check the angle on the piece that keeps the bolt open, mine wasn’t quite perfect from the weld job they did when putting it together, I gave it a slight twist to engage it more and no further issues. Link of the part from their website….

https://freedomordnance.com/product/fx-9-last-round-bolt-hold-open/
 
Jems said:
You might want to check the angle on the piece that keeps the bolt open, mine wasn’t quite perfect from the weld job they did when putting it together, I gave it a slight twist to engage it more and no further issues. Link of the part from their website….

https://freedomordnance.com/product/fx-9-last-round-bolt-hold-open/
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Interesting - thanks for the tip. I will check it out. Worst case, I can try to just replace it. I will check it out tonight.
 
Well today's session had some good news and so not so steller news. My brass all look like Gen 1 Glock brass after sending a round down range. The brass brings new meaning to the infamous Glock Bulge. Man every case has a bulge at the 6 o'clock position on the case. Is this normal? I'll be concerned if it isn't normal.

As to the Glock 10 rd mags lock back was problematic at best. It seems if you hold the mag tightly in the mag will hold the bolt back. If you don't chances are it might or more likely won't. I don't think it a spring issue. They are designed to work in a Glock and my FX 9 isn't to be frank.

More good news the gun likes my Lyman 357402 TC Lead bullets. They run just fine with the same accuracy as my FMJ BDX bullets. I'll check for possible leading later to-nite. I doubt I will find any. I am using 4.1gr of TG for the BDX 125 gr bullets and 3.4 gr of 700X for the lead bullets. Both bullets are running 1120fps out of the FX9.

After supper I'll clean up the girl and put her away until Sunday for our IDPA Match.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
Just read a message sent to my Services Account that my FX9 was approved by the CFP June 28 and it expires Sept 26, 2022. Not sure what happens Sept 26. I may have sold it to a stranger by then. So we now seem to have a long gun registry. If anyone votes for Trudeau that has a firearm of any sort I hope that person trips on a banana and falls into a pile of cow pie.

Take Care

Bob
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Incorrect.

The reference number is just to verify your license. The dealer can sell to you any NR until Sep 26.

Let's assume you have a bunch of NR and want to sell the SKS, the JR and the FX-9 to one person.

You only need ONE reference number and nobody knows if you sold only one or 20 NR to this person.

I have used it a few times, no problem with it using it for private sales. I used whatsapp a few times now to see the person and the license or show myself.

However, I have a problem sending a copy of my PAL and DL to a dealer via unsecured email.
 
alpining said:
Interesting. Can you post photos? Are all of your handloads showing the same bulge? Does factory ammo do the same?
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I sent a picture to Wolverine. Their gunsmith will get to me on Monday. The bulge is not large but definitely there. Yes with factory ammo as well. I was only loading 4.1 gr of TG under 125 BDX bullet which gives me a PF of 130 out of my carbine and 130ish out of a 4.25"pistol barrel. Before we start a speculation thread it may just be a case of early ejection. The bulge canbe felt when resizing but does get sized down using Lee and Dillon sizing dies.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
... it may just be a case of early ejection. ...
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Well, early extraction, that's immediately what I thought. Weird for it to be happening with all ammo types in an unmodified rifle though. Timing is controlled by the bolt/buffer mass in a straight blowback action. It would be strange for this to be out of spec. Unless there's something unusual going on with your chamber / throat / rifling.

Or maybe the bulge is "within spec". Let us know what Wolverine has to say.
 
I sent off the same explanation to Freedom Ordnance yesterday and received the following last night.

"Good evening, Bob. Hotter (+p) will do this, but standard ammunition should not do this. If you are interested in having your firearm checked out, please click the link below to go to our website and click on your country. Scroll down to fill in your information and someone will be in touch as soon as possible. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else. Have a good evening. "

I am about to contact them again with the details eg serial number etc and see what they have to say. I suspect it is just a case of early extraction but I am no expert so we will let them handle it.

I should add, the load is running >135PF out of the carbine. 4.1 gr of Titegroup under a 125gr BDX RN bullet. I runs 130ish PF out of my Walther PPQ Match. I get the same effect using the even lighter loads used in my M&P Compact CCP pistol.

Take Care

Bob


 
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Good News. Here is the reply I received from Wolverine Supplies.

"Thank you for your email and the pictures. I have heard back from the gunsmith and he has indicated that the cases are not an issue.

Should you require anything further please do not hesitate to ask."

Carbine continues to operate fine with all my reloads. I have no intention of adding any mods to it. I am a great believer in considering issues while using the gun for it's intended purpose. During drills similar to what I would find in an IDPA event I found double taps were as fast as I can react to the trigger reset. I have and continue to use Riflechair's method of wearing in the triiger, It has lost all it's early gritty feeling. It may well be heavier than some would like. That said I am fine with it. I shoot double action revolvers in competition that have heavier triggers so I don't notice the weight while engaging targets. I lighter pull might be beneficial if I was bullseye shooting but I am not. Hitting the top box on the IDPA target is not an issue at 10 yards. Because of the height over bore of the Strikefire aiming at the top of the target puts the rounds almost dead in the middle of the scoring zone. I have the sight set for POA at 25 yards or meters if you prefer.

I do recommend this carbine to anyone considering PCC Division in either IPSC or IDPA. The 8" top end would be icing on the cake for competitions in Canada. For the US, I think you would need a pistol brace on the gun to enter the US. A phone call to the ATF would be my advice if you are contemplating competing in the US.

I did not install metal trigger parts in my CX4 Storm so I can only comment that stock the CX4 Storm would be a poor choice for PCC Division. With all metal after market parts the gun is popular in the US. The OIC prevents it's use for the present.

Due to the FX9's weight I would choose it over the Ruger PCC, although the Ruger I think performs better with all magazines from my experience ie locking back the bolt on the last round fired. IDPA favours slide lock reloads as dropping partially filled magazines draws a 3 second penalty.

The Scorpian, if you have one, like the CX4 Storm is under the restrictions of the OIC ban. If I could use the 18.5" carbine version or the shorter barreled version I think the Scorpian might have a slight advantage over the FX9 due to it's well tested reliability. I say that only if it could be used with 10rd mags. Limited to 5 rounds in Canada it just cannot compete.

I have mentioned both the CX4 Storm and CZ Scorpian only because in the US the top four carbines in use for IDPA competitions are, in no particular order:

*AR 15 9MM version (Presently banned by OIC)
CX 4 Storm 9MM (Presently banned by OIC)
CZ Scorpian (Presently banned by OIC)
**SIG MPX (Presently banned by OIC)

* I have no experience shooting the 9MM barreled carbine
** I have no experience shooting this platform at all.

I wish the Liberals could be made to understand that virtually all, but not all, of us buy the AR, CX 4 Storm, Ruger PCC, Scorpian, MPX and FX9 for competition use in three of the four most active shooting sports in Canada. The fourth being Cowboy Action Shooting which of course has no Division for Semi Autos. :>).

I suspect the FX9 would have a greater following in the US if the AR platform was not available and most shooters who shoot IDPA in the US have the AR platform in hand already.

The FX 9 PCC carbine experience continues.

Take Care

Bob
 
alpining said:
Well, early extraction, that's immediately what I thought. Weird for it to be happening with all ammo types in an unmodified rifle though. Timing is controlled by the bolt/buffer mass in a straight blowback action. It would be strange for this to be out of spec. Unless there's something unusual going on with your chamber / throat / rifling.

Or maybe the bulge is "within spec". Let us know what Wolverine has to say.
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I'm not surprised. The buffer used in the older FX9 was way too light for a blowback PCC. The one in my old first gen was around 3oz, alot of us went up to a ~5.5oz H3 which fixed our cycling issues (with considerably smoother recoil). A couple guys here went to ~7.5oz PCC buffers in their FX9 with perfect function with the ammo they used.

H3 buffers are relatively inexpensive and easy to find. You may want to give one a try to see if it helps with the bulged case problem.
 
fritzhanzel said:
Incorrect.

The reference number is just to verify your license. The dealer can sell to you any NR until Sep 26.

Let's assume you have a bunch of NR and want to sell the SKS, the JR and the FX-9 to one person.

You only need ONE reference number and nobody knows if you sold only one or 20 NR to this person.

I have used it a few times, no problem with it using it for private sales. I used whatsapp a few times now to see the person and the license or show myself.

However, I have a problem sending a copy of my PAL and DL to a dealer via unsecured email.
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Going a bit off topic but does a reference number even denote a sale took place on their end? I mean, I could have gotten a reference number and had the guy go dark or I could have changed my mind at the gun counter. With no serial, there's nothing saying anything actually happened except a pal check really. Food for thought.
 
I had my new to me FX9 out on the weekend and put some 300+ factory rounds through it. I had zero issues save for a user error of a pmag not fully seating. I ran PMC bronze, Winchester 147gr flat nose and some Hollows down the pipe with no issues. Used factory SGM mag and 4 pmags interchangeably. Quite happy with my break in period so far. Fires like a spicy 22LR lol. My optic kept coming loose was about the only issue, which is odd as the optic & mount (burris AR-332 prism) came from my (now banned by OIC) AR. Nothing some loctite can't solve. All in all, I'm pleased with my purchase, wish I had done it earlier instead of some other projects.
 
Just an update on the case bulge issue. While sizing some 9MM brass today I noticed two cases that has the bulge somewhat larger than the others and the bulge went completely around the case. When I tried to resize the case the bulge flattened but made quite a mess of the case making it unserviceable. Not good. Well before I contact Wolverine again and send another picture of the case I think I will first try the quarter trick in an effort to stiffen the spring tension and go ahead and buy a 5.4oz buffer from one of our members here. He wants $65 + shipping for it.

Am I running down the wrong trail here? I think slowing down the bolt during extraction would keep the case in the chamber longer. Other than the case bulging cases the gun works just fine. I am a bit concerned in that bulging is one thing, having a case split at the time of ignition is not something I need experience.



Take Care

Bob
 
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Absolutely worth a try.

At this point I'd also be very cautious about repeated loadings going through that rifle. You're possibly weakening the case in the same spot each time, and looking at the potential for case head separation during early ejection, I think.

Straight blowback actions are actually pretty finicky compared to delayed blowback - The acceptable range of pressure curves is quite a bit narrower.
 
Yes you are correct and that is my concern. I will test the quarter solve. If it works great. If it doesn't I'll go with a H3 buffer. It still isn't solved I'll get Wolverine involved.t
 
I'll post this here again in case someone missed it.
We have run AR-10 rifle length springs and a Blitzkrieg hydraulic buffers in some competition built FX9's and have had zero issues. In IPSC you don't need to use the bolt lock back, so long as you can show clear. Tuning a PCC can only be done if you slow the bolt down and stop it from having the bolt slam back on a solid wall. If they are tuned properly, the bolt should only travel back far enough to re set the hammer plus a couple of thou for insurance. Muzzle brakes on a PCC purely for the cool factor and just add forward weight and will do nothing for recoil. We played the PCC race gun game for a long time both here and in the US with 60 rounds sticks and like I stated above, having a properly tuned buffer is 99.9% of the tuning needed. A good trigger with a fast reset is a no brainer and should be done regardless as the factory one sucks balls. One last thing, polishing the feed ramp with some compound and a Dremel will cost you nothing and will improve feeding a bunch.
 
Rifleman338 this pm I had 3 cases Crack above the webbing and several cases showing a slight bulge near the webbing. Would a 5.9oz buffer eliminate this issue? I can order ar springs if you think it would solve this issue.

Take Care
Bobk
 
rifleman338 said:
I'll post this here again in case someone missed it.
We have run AR-10 rifle length springs and a Blitzkrieg hydraulic buffers in some competition built FX9's and have had zero issues. In IPSC you don't need to use the bolt lock back, so long as you can show clear. Tuning a PCC can only be done if you slow the bolt down and stop it from having the bolt slam back on a solid wall. If they are tuned properly, the bolt should only travel back far enough to re set the hammer plus a couple of thou for insurance. Muzzle brakes on a PCC purely for the cool factor and just add forward weight and will do nothing for recoil. We played the PCC race gun game for a long time both here and in the US with 60 rounds sticks and like I stated above, having a properly tuned buffer is 99.9% of the tuning needed. A good trigger with a fast reset is a no brainer and should be done regardless as the factory one sucks balls. One last thing, polishing the feed ramp with some compound and a Dremel will cost you nothing and will improve feeding a bunch.
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Which version of the hydraulic buffers were these? The heavy damped or the standard weight blitzkriegs?
 
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