Wk180c issues and problems

I finally made it to the range today with my new WK, put 140 rounds of federal AE through her with absolutely no issues.
I cleaned it thoroughly before taking it out and ran it wet (including plenty of grease for the bolt), as recommended by a few here.
Hera mags, 5/30 G3 Magpuls and my steel CPD lar15 10rd pistol mags all fed flawlessly. with zero FTE issues.
two thumbs up so far, will see if that changes after another 1000 rounds...
 
I'm up around 600 rounds through mine now, including 80 rounds fired a couple mornings ago at a temperature of -38C. Essentially perfect function; I think I had just the one FTFeed back when the gun was brand new, within the first few magazines full. Took it coyote hunting this morning for the first time; no shots fired, temperature -35C. Got home for breakfast, watched the temp crawl up to -26C, glanced out the window, stepped onto the back deck and smoked a coyote at a later-lasered 186 yards.

It's been blooded, and did exactly the job I envisaged when I bought it. But I really do need to address that trigger somehow.
 
I'm not one to buy a bargain-basement utility gun like this and start swapping in expensive parts; I'm not interested in having a slightly-improved bargain-basement gun that has cost me a fortune. Also, I am leery of unholysavage's issue with a potential new trigger. Aside from plinking, this gun's mission is coyotes, and in prime coyote-hunting temperatures I don't want a very light trigger. I suspect I will just experiment with this trigger and try to smooth it out a bit with careful polishing if possible.

I like two-stage triggers. Since this one is now about a nine-stage trigger, all I need to do is lose a few of those steps. :)
 
jjohnwm said:
I'm not one to buy a bargain-basement utility gun like this and start swapping in expensive parts; I'm not interested in having a slightly-improved bargain-basement gun that has cost me a fortune. Also, I am leery of unholysavage's issue with a potential new trigger. Aside from plinking, this gun's mission is coyotes, and in prime coyote-hunting temperatures I don't want a very light trigger. I suspect I will just experiment with this trigger and try to smooth it out a bit with careful polishing if possible.

I like two-stage triggers. Since this one is now about a nine-stage trigger, all I need to do is lose a few of those steps. :)
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Unfortunately the only affordable trigger upgrade is the ALG ACT which is a single stage which you said you don't like.
Aside from that just dry fire it 1000 times while watching TV or something, the original trigger in my 180B-2 was terrible when new but was smoothing out nicely when I replaced it with the ALG.
 
cr5 said:
Unfortunately the only affordable trigger upgrade is the ALG ACT which is a single stage which you said you don't like.
Aside from that just dry fire it 1000 times while watching TV or something, the original trigger in my 180B-2 was terrible when new but was smoothing out nicely when I replaced it with the ALG.
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I don't dislike single-stage, although I prefer two. I will look at that one, thanks.

Dry-firing at Animal Planet is one of my favourite gunsmithing techniques...my wife says I am "funsmithing". :)

I had a 180B2 years ago. Going from memory, it had a much nicer trigger than the WK180.
 
Just looked at the ALG ACT unit. Around six pounds pull, but apparently with all the coffee grounds and gravel removed from the mechanism. Looks like it would fit the bill perfectly. Thanks again!
 
jjohnwm said:
Just looked at the ALG ACT unit. Around six pounds pull, but apparently with all the coffee grounds and gravel removed from the mechanism. Looks like it would fit the bill perfectly. Thanks again!
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The new ones come with 2 trigger springs, I believe you get one for 4 pounds pull and one for 6 pounds or for ammo with hard primers.
Plus they're nickel boron coated so they're smooth from day one.
 
Even better. In winter temps, I would probably still go with the heavier pull weight, but nice to have options.
 
jjohnwm said:
I don't dislike single-stage, although I prefer two. I will look at that one, thanks.

Dry-firing at Animal Planet is one of my favourite gunsmithing techniques...my wife says I am "funsmithing". :)

I had a 180B2 years ago. Going from memory, it had a much nicer trigger than the WK180.
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The trigger tech competition trigger fixed at 3.5 lbs is what Im going with. Simple, light enough. Crisp as hell. Made in Canada.

As for the gun to gun consistency, Im with you all on that to a point. They are more than 1000 guns in now and have been listening to users and supporting their products for more than 6 months.

It seems mine that I just got has improved substantially since gun #1. Where you see a lack of consistency I see a continuously inproving product and company.
 
Cameron SS said:
It doesnt matter if the gas block touches the handguard or not. Its not a free float because its a piston gun, and even if there was no contact you can flex both the handguard and the barrel to make contact.

You can interpret the quotes as you see fit. Like the original author, I believe freedom of speech is the first and most important freedom. Stay classy.

PS I love my 180.
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Wow, that's news to me. You can free float a gas gun. The piston system acts as an independent oscillating member with consistent harmonics. When it strikes or rests up against the handguard it, imparts a lot of inconsistencies in the oscillation. This can be attributed to variability caused by user input. (eg. sling pressure etc.). You have obviously never competed in long distance shooting or else you would be aware of that Cameron. If you look at the manufacturer's information you can clearly see that they state it is free floating. So if you can't float a piston gun why do they claim it is so?

You say you are being misinterpreted and that we should re-read your posts. O.K, which of the 8,000 plus comments should we read. You obviously have a lot to say about a lot of things. Maybe you should confine yourself to matters where you have experience or knowledge. As already stated by others on this thread it's a free country and everyone's opinion is welcome regardless of it's relevant, so say your peace.

You love your rifle. That sounds like there is an emotional attachment there. Well, I on the other hand do not. It's just tool. It either performs up to my expectations or it doesn't. I don't sit in my basement with my rifle calling to it "My precious, my precious".

This thread is here to consolidate all of the information on this rifle that is floating around on the web. I feel the author has done a pretty good job of doing that. How can you complain about him re-stating the issues without copying from other posts?

Maybe you should separate your feelings from your facts. Do me a favour and pull down your skirt, the cold January wind is blowing.
 
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Joe Black said:
Wow, that's news to me. You can free float a gas gun. The piston system acts as an independent oscillating member with consistent harmonics. When it strikes or rests up against the handguard it, imparts a lot of inconsistencies in the oscillation. This can be attributed to variability caused by user input. (eg. sling pressure etc.). You have obviously never competed in long distance shooting or else you would be aware of that Cameron. If you look at the manufacturer's information you can clearly see that they state it is free floating. So if you can't float a piston gun why do they claim it is so?

You say you are being misinterpreted and that we should re-read your posts. O.K, which of the 8,000 plus comments should we read. You obviously have a lot to say about a lot of things. Maybe you should confine yourself to matters where you have experience or knowledge. As already stated by others on this thread it's a free country and everyone's opinion is welcome regardless of it's relevant, so say your peace.

You love your rifle. That sounds like there is an emotional attachment there. Well, I on the other hand do not. It's just tool. It either performs up to my expectations or it doesn't. I don't sit in my basement with my rifle calling to it "My precious, my precious".

This thread is here to consolidate all of the information on this rifle that is floating around on the web. I feel the author has done a pretty good job of doing that. How can you complain about him re-stating the issues without copying from other posts?

Maybe you should separate your feelings from your facts. Do me a favour and pull down your skirt, the cold January wind is blowing.
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Joe. Well said and in a classy way as well.
 
Cee-8 said:
Sure, I'm looking at the bag right now.

Contents: 1. White plastic piston guide sleeve 2. Gas block set screw 3. 2x Handguard screws 4. 2x C-clamps 5. small o-ring
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OK thank - I got #1, #2 (which I did know what they were for - do now!), #3 (4 of them). No #4 or #5.

Early rifle serial just over 100 so maybe they changed the kit later.

I guess the oring is a fix for some extractor issues? I bought an AR extractor spring and buffer at my LGS so I have that just in case.

Do you know what the clamps are for?
 
Yes. One is to retain the pivot pin that connects the upper and lower receivers. The second is located in the trigger assembly. Specifically, it retains the bolt hold open mechanism.
 
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