Zastava CZ-99, $575. 9mm & 40S&W, Please Discuss.

[johnone]

USP9;
You might say I work at Marstar I own the company....

I might mention that we have worked extensively in the former Yugoslavia since 1984.... Been there more than 100 times....

We did a lot of product developement with Zastava at various times.... They produced many firearms for us, both military and civilian....

In the early to mid 1990s we had many prototypes developed at Zastava, handguns, rifles, etc.... Among them our dual caliber CZ-99 or as we called it the MCZ-99 (M for Marstar)

We did testing both here (Canada) at in Yugoslavia. Numerous changes were made to the original design over a period of about two years....

I am not aware on what TD Arms did at that tme, so I cannot offer any opinion or information....

I have notes someplace, if memory serves me it was something in the order of 15,000rds before we had any failure (Extractor) a further 10,000rds before we had another problem (Firing pin)

ONE THING TO NOTE here our design specified a very special alloy for the barrel and the expected barrel life was in excess of 50,000rds.... The barrels were of the same high chrome alloy as those for MGs being produced at the time.... They were expensive at the time, I can't imagine them being produced with the same alloy today....

I can have our photographer shoot some pictures if you are interested.

Regards
John

 

[Deckard]

johnone is Marstar. He is a good source of Zastava AKs, and the guy who will get me a Zastava Skorpion SMG pistol. OK, I wish.

 

[johnone]

DECKARD;
We all know the country is much safer without these vicious weapons being allowed out among us peasants....

MERRY CHRISTMAS regardless
John

 

[Deckard]

Zastava makes semi Skorpions. Several are in the country now. WANTS. Mind you, semi type 56 SMGs would turn my crank too.

 

[PeterPan]

So, Is CZ99 coming to Canada in near future?

Thanks

 

[PerversPépère]

Had one a few years ago, in 9mm, came complete with standard tritium sights.
Was a very nice gun, well made and service capable. The mags were clones for the sig's, apart from the latching cut. Frame was alloy with a replaceable steel locking block and a ramp/cam barrel locking system.
Very easy takedown and cleaning.
Had the bad idea of selling it... Now, a .40 S&W one could be interesting.
PP.

 

[Levi Garrett]

looks like A P-88

 

[Deckard]

I am one of the few who wanted this pistol. I still do, but with K100, M&P and even Bersa out there, its utility as an ambi pistol is lessened. The new plastic SIG is ambi too BTW.

http://www.sauer-waffen.de/index.php?id=319&lang=en

(John get Bersa mags and I'd bite).

 

[USP9]

Sorry JOHNONE! I had no idea

Every time I hear about Marstar I remember that I was stupid enough not to buy one of those Yugo M-57 with a crest on it (highly collectible) and instead I paid almost $1100 for a Glock 17 which I don't shoot anymore and that's just like million other Glocks out there. That brings back painful memories

Can I quote you on what you posted about CZ 99???

I am SOOOO interested in the CZ 99 pics you have! In return, here is a pic of my collection of Zastava CZ 99 family pistols (sorry about the quality):

Left to right: CZ 99, three CZ 999 Scorpion, two CZ 05

 

[darko]

Sell me one of those two on the right with the rails

 

[johnone]

USP9;
After the holidays I will shoot a few pictures of the ones I have....and send them to you.

John

 

[bojano]

Want....

 

[USP9]

Thanks John!!!

I sent you a PM.

Regards,
JudgeUSP

 

[Eddystone]

I am in the market for a 9mm - and SIG clone with ambi controls are just what I'm looking for. The price is about right too. I was really close to buying a SIG 220 in 9mm (european) but, since I'm a lefty this pistol will fit the bill. Yeah, I'll take one. what's the warranty/service going to be like?

 

[Deckard]

You need to examine the SIG P250
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_handguns/GAsigpt250_060707inset.jpg

 

[timothydgordon]

They look like SiG, maybe it's the other way around, I don't know but I would still buy a SiG instead.

 

[Deckard]

Yeah. Still interested.

 

[johnone]

DECKARD;
They are a very good pistol, I was in on the early stages of developement, we are the people that came up with the two calibers in one pistol....

They have several features that are above the SIG....

I have several examples of pre-production models....

We ran some for tens of thousands of rounds at the local ammo factory just too see what would happen, how long it would take to fail....

Several factors came into play, the ten years of civil war, embargos, etc, etc,
ever rising cost on our version of the pistol, we simply gave up.
John

 

[Deckard]

Thanks. It looks like it had a great deal going for it.

 

[johnone]

DECKARD;
It had a lot going for it, however at the time we were looking at very high production costs with the dollar at $1.40 so it became too costly....
As others have pointed out, in the $500. range you are competing against some of the "major" names.
But YES it is a fine pistol
John