The NEW KING is taking off!

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No need to explain yourself. Shoot as many damn rounds as you want!

One of my favorite is 14" pizza boxes nailed to a tree @150 yards. Standing rapid fire.
 
Toomanyguns said:
No need to explain yourself. Shoot as many damn rounds as you want!

One of my favorite is 14" pizza boxes nailed to a tree @150 yards. Standing rapid fire.
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We have gongs at 100, 250, 350 and 440 yards. Hitting the 250 yard gong offhand is challenging, but it's fun. Shot it yesterday with 300gr AB load, and it knocked the gong off the stand!:eek:
 
I am very impressed with the performance listed from such a short handy barrel. That'll suit me fine because of osteoarthritis I'll be needing a muzzle brake and the overall length will still be handy to swing in the bush.

Thanks for doing such thorough testing and listing here. All of you guys are a huge help for us newbies to The King.
 
Be careful with that brake, in a 20" pipe with a true magnum like that, it will be more than deafening. Can't always get the plugs in hunting too, I had to take 3 unprotected rounds from my 23", non-braked .375 H&H and that was enough to get the bells ringing. 20" with a brake would likely mean permanent damage unprotected. Look forward to seeing any potential future rigs! One thing about a .375 is, there's no good excuse for more guns after that unfortunately, it does it all.
 
Until the Angels Fall said:
THE KING.....IS.....DEAD :eek:
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Ha! Well honestly, I see the Ruger as a lasting phenomena, even as a died in the wool H&H man. It is a good cartridge, and you see it popping up beside the H&H as a chambering option even on custom rifle makers websites (like montanarifleman). It will move the magnum .375 to new levels in my opinion, as it fits in conventional action, basically moving the .375 from niche to mainstream.

That said, for me, there's still no question which is better. I travel a lot and need ammo availability in remote places, don't even need or have a use for another pinch of velocity with 270grs, and prefer a magnum action anyhow. I also like the reliability of the H&H in the heat, dust, etc. A lot of guys will talk about the Ruger and explain their like for it's fitting in an affordable, huntable gun, classic Mauser, etc etc. Both have their place, both will flourish for ages to come. "King" however denotes a certain sense of tradition, entitlement... that's the H&H's bag. :D When the Ruger's taken more game than the H&H, which I doubt will ever happen naturally, then it could call itself King. Not yet. ;)
 
Ardent said:
Ha! Well honestly, I see the Ruger as a lasting phenomena, even as a died in the wool H&H man.
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I do too, but don't tell Clarke. I just like to play along with his trolling. ;)

I personally think one of those Alaskans in a laminated stock would be pretty hard to beat.


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Ardent said:
. I also like the reliability of the H&H in the heat, dust, etc. )
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If a rifle won't feed or chamber when dusty, there is something really wrong with the rifle...

People take all sorts of cartridges to Africa, few of them shaped like an H&H...They seem to work okay, no reason why the NEW KING won't work, too.;)
 
Gatehouse said:
Long live the H&H???

NEWSFLASH: YOU HAVE A 375-338, NOT A H&H

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You're right, and I wasn't trolling all over the interweb telling all that mine is the KING, cuz it's not. The H&H has the advantage of factory ammo over mine.

OTOH, mine is a very good cartridge and THE original 375 short mag designed to fit in a 98 length action as was the 338 and 458WM.

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Gatehouse said:
If a rifle won't feed or chamber when dusty, there is something really wrong with the rifle...

People take all sorts of cartridges to Africa, few of them shaped like an H&H...They seem to work okay, no reason why the NEW KING won't work, too.;)
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Well the thing is most of the guns going over there, after anything big and dangerous, are .375 H&H's. My PH said that the number of hunters showing up with a .375 H&H outnumbers all other calibers of guns combined that he's had show up in camp for dangerous game. So while many are shaped differently, doesn't mean much when most of them are H&H's! I talked to people here from CGN who had chambering issues with modern cartridges right before I left, not uncommon. There's something to be said for your brass not contacting the chamber walls until the very last minute when camming into battery on bolt closure, due to healthy taper, and even more to be said for it being broken completely out of contact with the chamber walls on extraction the second you lift the bolt handle. :) Like I said, I'm no "ardent" opponent of the Ruger, I think it's a fine cartridge that was designed for more little-bit-of-everything shooting, especially North American shooting. When it comes to Africa mind you, the H&H is the hands down winner, better in high heat there's no argument (lower pressure, and tapered), better in fine dust again no argument (slicker feeding, taper handles dust better than straight bottleneck), and likely most critically; you can get ammo anywhere on earth. Would I take a .375 Ruger to Africa and feel confident? Hell yes, just like I would with a .404 Jeffery, but I had the choice, and chose the H&H. Happy with my choice, the Ruger fellas have good reasons to be happy with theirs too, for you can own a few .375 Rugers, one short blued/wood, one long, and one stainless/synthetic, for the price of one decent .375 H&H. For a "get-to-it" hunter, the Ruger wins, it's a sensible choice. When everything has to be perfect though, I choose the H&H. Personal preferences all 'round...
 
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