The SL8 Mods, Info and FAQ Thread

That's mean I can remove some weight to the gun... Cool!!!

But maybe it's more simple to buy a real G36 Barrel??? But they seem rare or hard to find.
 
Hi! Every body...

I'm looking for a good scope/sight system for my SL8... I need magnification and 1X style sight ( EOTECH, AIMPOINT, etc...) And I still unsure about the original G36 dual (or single) sight system. Some people said it wasn't so good. Even on this thread, I can't see real good comments.

I'm curious to try the G36 Sight system but I don't know anyone in Montreal with this configuration. The scope itself seem interesting for me, but the red dot system is too big...

I don't want to be deceive and I'm curious to know more about the single optic system. Is there a way to put an EOTECH or an AIMPOINT on the top of the rail? I don't see attach points. But maybe the distance between the barrel and the sight will be too greate anyway??? :(

Maybe my low profile rail and and a EOTECH (with is magnifier) will be better???

Is it so bad???? I mean the HK sight system...

Thank You

Best Regards
 
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I have both setups, the original dual optic, and the low rail with BUIS and an EOtech.

I bought the rifle honestly thinking that I would be only using the EOtech, but I was wrong. After the first time shooting the rifle with the Dual Optic, I was hooked on it. It provides a very good means to have a low power optical sight and a red dot sight for closer work in the same platform.

Now, I don't shoot service rifle or anything with mine, and if I did, then my opinion would likely favor towards the dedicated EOtech, as the aquisition is faster and the field of view is far superior. For accuracy and flexability however, the original dual optic can not be beaten.

BTW, the red dot looks alot bigger in photos then it is in real life.


My .02
 
I've always liked the single optic in 3.5x, giving a carry handle and great access to the charging handle, and topping it with a BT rail and mounting a serious red-dot on.

Like this guy is running:

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Although I also like the idea of a small red-dot over top the single optic. Just can't find a Zeiss Z-Point:

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Just a thought but have you considered running the dedicated optic and then topping it off with a MRDS like the Leupold Deltapoint. It would give you the eyes to reach out and touch longer targets and with the MRDS there is the ultralow profile so doesn't get snagged up. Motion sensitive on/off to boot...
 
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spirit said:
Cool! Thank You!

Anyone ever try and EOTech with the 3X magnifier from the same company??? Is it a good solution?
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Yeah, I've tried that. In person, I think it looks top-heavy, and the distance between the bore axis and the sight axis approaches FNH P90 height (~135mm) (if you really, really want pictures, I can make some). It's ok, but I'd rather a small red-dot like a Z-point or Aimpoint Mini, or even a Vortex SPARC, as that keeps it ~110mm above the bore. Running the G36C rail with an EOTech and magnifier puts the sight ~105mm above the bore. So over all, I think the combo the Germans are running of factory optic + Z-Point is a winner.

Here's a Bundeswehr soldat rocking an interesting G36K with a full-length hand-guard and an EOTech over the 3X Hensoldt. The dude on the right is rocking a Z-point over the 3X Hensoldt on his full-size G36:
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Finally I get a chance to look trough a single optic handle.

But I did not have seen the 400m, 600m, and 800m point of aim... Eigther the man size markers. Is it normal???

The 1.5X magnification is deceiving too... :(

Not sure if I will like the G36 scope Handle...

Is there any mounts to fix above a scope, an aimpoint or an EOTech?
 
spirit said:
Finally I get a chance to look trough a single optic handle.

But I did not have seen the 400m, 600m, and 800m point of aim... Either the man size markers. Is it normal???

The 1.5X magnification is deceiving too... :(

Not sure if I will like the G36 scope Handle...

Is there any mounts to fix above a scope, an aimpoint or an EOTech?
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It comes in two variants: The dual optic has the 3X magnification, while the single optic has 1.5x magnification. The neat thing is that you can either take the red dot off the dual optic, or you can purchase a 3X optic tube (eBay.de I recall having plenty) and replace the 1.5x tube in the single optic. You want the 3X magnifier, which has the markings out to 800m.
 
Should I even bother

Ive read this entire post 3 times for the purpose weather I can build a g36 clone ie modified SL8. As of Nov 2011 I would say it is very hard to get quality parts to do a good job here to Canada.
This bothers me because HK has a brand new plant in Georgia producing all kinds of cool hardware for the civi and millitary market speciffically for the US and Canadian market to meet regualtion. So why are g36 priced like they were General Psttons personal firearm??
It seems like it might be easier to go to another platform or buy a g36 for 9000. Since most guys say there builds run them 6000k plus optics. Whats an extra 3000 grand for a riffle that will appreciate over time.
Is it possible through importers or domestically to buy a g36 piece piece...Lower, upper, barrell so untill you have the riffle you want. Ive notice HK pro has alot of parts and there not that expensive in comparisment of the build. Will they ship parts to Canada Does anyone stock the registered parts?
Your input is needed. Any link appreciated. If this doesnt work I will have to move on to the a Swiss Arms or a new HK.
 
homeless said:
I've read this entire thread 3 times for the purpose whether I can build a G36 clone i.e. modified SL8. As of Nov 2011 I would say it is very hard to get quality parts to do a good job here to Canada.
This bothers me because HK has a brand new plant in Georgia producing all kinds of cool hardware for the civil and military market specifically for the US and Canadian market to meet regulation. So why are G36 priced like they were General Patton's personal firearm?
It seems like it might be easier to go to another platform or buy a G36 for 9000. Since most guys say there builds run them 6000$ plus optics. What's an extra 3000$ for a rifle that may appreciate over time?
Is it possible through importers or domestically to buy a G36 piece by piece...Lower, upper, barrel so until you have the rifle you want. I've notice HK Pro has a lot of parts and they're not that expensive in comparison of the build. Will they ship parts to Canada? Does anyone stock the required parts?
Your input is needed. Any link appreciated. If this doesn't work I will have to move on to Swiss Arms or a new HK.
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HK Parts and HK Pro do not export parts as a general rule. Exporting parts improperly may also be illegal, especially from the US. There are two main types of conversions of the SL8 to G36: through the use of a metal adapter (commonly known as a "stock-block" conversion), and through the use of welding a G36 receiver end to the SL8 receiver (also known as a TBostic or ChopsixKid conversion). Obviously, the second option is closer to a G36 (and doesn't suffer from the terrible length of pull), but it is permanent.

The availability of parts in November 2011 is currently unknown, however your insight into the future is noted, and probably will prove true. HK would love to sell to civilians. They would love to arm everyone. They would love to become number one instead of number two. However they are restrained by the German government, and export of product from their American operations are restrained by American law. This, compounded with the prohibition of all HK long-arms except their Plastics Collection (G36, UMP, MP7) and anything newer has created a lack of supply where there is demand. That is why the price is where it is.

It is possible to scrounge most of the parts from the suppliers mentioned in the first post, from the members on this forums, and other sources. If you cannot get certain parts, it just means that you are not paying enough. Some of the sources are hidden and require search to uncover them, especially sources that are outside Canada and the US.

Or, you could just buy the already converted on the EE. There are a few of the "stock-block" conversion, and I'm sure you could haggle the guy with the welded conversion (comes with bayonet!) down a few hundred bucks.
 
homeless said:
Ive read this entire post 3 times for the purpose weather I can build a g36 clone ie modified SL8. As of Nov 2011 I would say it is very hard to get quality parts to do a good job here to Canada.
This bothers me because HK has a brand new plant in Georgia producing all kinds of cool hardware for the civi and millitary market speciffically for the US and Canadian market to meet regualtion. So why are g36 priced like they were General Psttons personal firearm??
It seems like it might be easier to go to another platform or buy a g36 for 9000. Since most guys say there builds run them 6000k plus optics. Whats an extra 3000 grand for a riffle that will appreciate over time.
Is it possible through importers or domestically to buy a g36 piece piece...Lower, upper, barrell so untill you have the riffle you want. Ive notice HK pro has alot of parts and there not that expensive in comparisment of the build. Will they ship parts to Canada Does anyone stock the registered parts?
Your input is needed. Any link appreciated. If this doesnt work I will have to move on to the a Swiss Arms or a new HK.
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The US manufacturing division ONLY manufactures civilian parts for the US market. HK USA has stopped producing the SL8 for the US market. All other civilian markets are supplied by Germany.

German laws prohibit the sale of the G36 to civilian markets. This includes any part specific to the G36. This includes the upper receiver. There will be no new G36s sold to civilians through HK or its distributors. There are very few that are in civilian hands now, and they are legal to own here.

The US laws make it very hard to export any parts for an SL8 to G36 conversion. As most of the parts are made in the US the supply is almost non-existent. Many people and businesses do not want to go through the hassle to get export permits.

There are some sources outside the US that make and supply parts. However, with the European Union now controlling the trade and countries passing laws on export of firearms and parts related to them, these sources have become difficult to obtain from.

Items that are permitted to be exported from the US and other world wide sources, must have proper permit and approvals. These permits, approvals and even the application for such add costs that become prohibitive to business.
 
homeless said:
Ive read this entire post 3 times for the purpose weather I can build a g36 clone ie modified SL8. As of Nov 2011 I would say it is very hard to get quality parts to do a good job here to Canada.
This bothers me because HK has a brand new plant in Georgia producing all kinds of cool hardware for the civi and millitary market speciffically for the US and Canadian market to meet regualtion. So why are g36 priced like they were General Psttons personal firearm??
It seems like it might be easier to go to another platform or buy a g36 for 9000. Since most guys say there builds run them 6000k plus optics. Whats an extra 3000 grand for a riffle that will appreciate over time.
Is it possible through importers or domestically to buy a g36 piece piece...Lower, upper, barrell so untill you have the riffle you want. Ive notice HK pro has alot of parts and there not that expensive in comparisment of the build. Will they ship parts to Canada Does anyone stock the registered parts?
Your input is needed. Any link appreciated. If this doesnt work I will have to move on to the a Swiss Arms or a new HK.
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I would never stop anyone for undertaking the process for the SL8-G36 build(on the contrary, I highly encourage you as there are tons of benefits). And you are doing it exactly the right way, by doing the research first.

However, as one who has completed the Tom Bostic (chop-shop version), I can impart upon you just a few very basic pearls of psuedo-wisdom.

First is patience. It will, and I stress will, take longer than you expect. Most of that time will be taken up in permitting applications. Next will be tons of time searching for parts and researching methods. Actually build time is only a couple days but mine took close to two years to source everything(you could do it quicker with unlimited funds though:)).

Next is cash. HK ain't cheap. Importing ain't cheap. HK accessories ain't cheap. You need to know this going in. At any given time you'll need the cash in hand, ready to pounce, when parts come on line. Then mail them to export mailhouse like the one south of Winterpeg(there are others). The parts can sit there at 5 buck per month until the paper work is complete. But parts are availible if you keep your head up and eyes open.

I also found that any package deals like the ones from HKParts are the way to go. But know that no companies export and its illegal to import without the paperwork, which takes time. It may be possible to order from a Canadian importer but again, expect a firm rodgering in regard to the import duties and paperwork (or learn to do it yourself like I did - as I side note I am cheap:D).

But if you can bear the strain the payoff is awesome. It's one of my favorite rifles (maybe because it took so much work).

Last is, unless you're 6'4 or more, I'd personally recommend straying away from the block or TN extensions. I'm 6'2" and found the LOP to be awkward and uncomfortably long. Best of luck.

Here's what mine ended up as from an SL8-5 and its been awesome for a few years now.

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incorrigible said:
I would never stop anyone for undertaking the process for the SL8-G36 build(on the contrary, I highly encourage you as there are tons of benefits). And you are doing it exactly the right way, by doing the research first.

However, as one who has completed the Tom Bostic (chop-shop version), I can impart upon you just a few very basic pearls of psuedo-wisdom.

First is patience. It will, and I stress will, take longer than you expect. Most of that time will be taken up in permitting applications. Next will be tons of time searching for parts and researching methods. Actually build time is only a couple days.

Next is cash. HK ain't cheap. Importing ain't cheap. HK accessories ain't cheap. You need to know this going in. At any given time you'll need the cash in hand, ready to pounce, when parts come on line. Then mail them to export mailhouse like the one south of Winterpeg(there are others). The parts can sit there at 5 buck per month until the paper work is complete. But parts are availible if you keep your head up and eyes open.

I also found that any package deals like the ones from HKParts are the way to go. But know that no companies export and its illegal to import without the paperwork, which takes time. It may be possible to order from a Canadian import but again, expect a firm rodgering in regard to the import duties and paperwork (or learn to do it yourself like I did - as I side note I am cheap:D).

But if you can bear the strain the payoff is awesome. It's one of my favorite rifles (maybe because it took so much work).

Last is, unless you're 6'4 or more, I'd personally recommend straying away from the block or TN extensions. I'm 6'2" and found the LOP to be awkwardly and uncomfortably long. Best of luck.

Here's what mine ended up as from an SL8-5 and its been awesome for a few years now.

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You forgot to include a picture of the gun.
 
Everytime I see a SL8-G36 Conversion... I think I we my pants... then cry like a little girl because I want one... but dont want to spend the few K to have one.

Roughly Total cost if I may ask? :p (I already have the rifle)

Luke
 
To those of you that have aftermarket rails ( B&T or KAC), do they fit tighter than the factory plastic? I have an SL-8 and the factory forend wiggles alot. I like the looks of the rails, but not willing to spend that kind of money unless they mount up snug. Thanks!
 
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