The issue only happens when the trigger is fully pressed to the rear. Who the hell would be pressing the trigger fully to the rear while pointing the gun anywhere else but downrange?
WARNING: Critical flaw in FNS pistol
- Thread starter Ironheart
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You don't have to send your gun to them, have them NOT fix the problem, hold the gun for 6 months, and then not return your phone calls? Thats about all I've heard about warranty work through Gretch...
easyrider604
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I hope that by sending us the new parts and us having to install said parts, we will not lose the warranty by tampering with the pistols.
The service bulletin came out in Dec 2018, so I suppose FNH have given sufficient notice.
Since my pistols do not have the safety issue per my testing, should I keep the old firing pins or bin them?
For the most part I can see where the concern is if the pistol is in the role of a duty gun; getting into a scuffle and the need to get shots off.
Ironically enough though, I just watched a video from one of the main gun channels out there, in regards to getting the muzzle away from the target (the body of the person attacking) so that you don't cause the pistol to go out of battery before pulling the trigger. You will have a dead trigger and have to rack the slide in order to get any striker pistol back in the fight. The only time you put the muzzle into the target is of you have a revolver. Food for thought.
Maybe FNS issues are actually useful lol you'll get the shot off in the event the pistol is out of battery
All joking aside...
... For those of us who don't use the pistol in a duty role or self defense role, I just don't seeing it being that big of an issue to forfeit the gun. Two very specific things have to happen in order to create the issue. If we were legally allowed to carry I would run this pistol.
I wouldn't mind picking up a discounted FNS 9L in black. I'll definitely have to keep an eye out on EE lol
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I have two FNS9s by the way, one is the regular and the other is a stainless long side. I had a chance to pull them out and try to induce the issue. I was successful.
My findings. The first is that it has to be quite precise when out of battery in order to casue the issues. We are talking like 1 to 2 mm. I could not casue the issue beyond that distance when out of battery. The second is that the FNS9 behaved exactly as shown in the video, and the long slide behaved a bit differently. I could casue the 1st issue: out of battery, pull the trigger, keep the finger on the trigger, and allow the slide to go forward, you can clear as day hear the stiker release. The 2nd was different with the long slide. Same set up as before, but then take the finger off of the trigger and allow the slide to go forward... I didn't have to jar it, the striker released on its own, but it was delayed by a second or so after the slide returned forward. Very interesting.
All that being said, I still don't feel it's a bit issue due to how far the slide has to be out of battery to cause the issues to arise. It's not like the gun is going to go off on it own; two things need to happen to casue the issues. I run both of mine with holsters and have full confidence.
Ironically enough though, I just watched a video from one of the main gun channels out there, in regards to getting the muzzle away from the target (the body of the person attacking) so that you don't cause the pistol to go out of battery before pulling the trigger. You will have a dead trigger and have to rack the slide in order to get any striker pistol back in the fight. The only time you put the muzzle into the target is of you have a revolver. Food for thought.
Maybe FNS issues are actually useful lol you'll get the shot off in the event the pistol is out of battery
All joking aside...
... For those of us who don't use the pistol in a duty role or self defense role, I just don't seeing it being that big of an issue to forfeit the gun. Two very specific things have to happen in order to create the issue. If we were legally allowed to carry I would run this pistol.
I wouldn't mind picking up a discounted FNS 9L in black. I'll definitely have to keep an eye out on EE lol
Edit:
I have two FNS9s by the way, one is the regular and the other is a stainless long side. I had a chance to pull them out and try to induce the issue. I was successful.
My findings. The first is that it has to be quite precise when out of battery in order to casue the issues. We are talking like 1 to 2 mm. I could not casue the issue beyond that distance when out of battery. The second is that the FNS9 behaved exactly as shown in the video, and the long slide behaved a bit differently. I could casue the 1st issue: out of battery, pull the trigger, keep the finger on the trigger, and allow the slide to go forward, you can clear as day hear the stiker release. The 2nd was different with the long slide. Same set up as before, but then take the finger off of the trigger and allow the slide to go forward... I didn't have to jar it, the striker released on its own, but it was delayed by a second or so after the slide returned forward. Very interesting.
All that being said, I still don't feel it's a bit issue due to how far the slide has to be out of battery to cause the issues to arise. It's not like the gun is going to go off on it own; two things need to happen to casue the issues. I run both of mine with holsters and have full confidence.
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Most of the ones I have seen have been in stainless and in .40 as they were really cheap a couple of years ago. A lot of dealers had them brand new in the $400-500 range and I think they may have been dumped onto the Canadian market.
easyrider604
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I’m hoping guys will dump these FNS’s now they have serious issues. I’ll pick up a couple 9mms and 40s once the market price dips into the mid 300s shipped.
The only long slide all black 9 I have seen ever is my wife's, I've seen a lot of the stainless but I've never seen another black one,,,didn't realize that until I actually thought about it lol, can't even recall seeing one on the EE?, anyway it does look killer in all black
The only long slide all black 9 I have seen ever is my wife's, I've seen a lot of the stainless but I've never seen another black one,,,didn't realize that until I actually thought about it lol, can't even recall seeing one on the EE?, anyway it does look killer in all black
Hopefully luck will be on my side lol!!
I just tried both scenarios with my fns9 (unloaded) couldn't get it to fire. I checked the website and it said my gun was also affected. So not sure if I should even pay this much attention, definitely don't want to send it away for six months.
The slide has to be out of battery in such a precise position in order for the pistol's issue to arise. I won't worry too much. It does sound like Gretch Outdoors is sending the strikers out without any fees. If that is the case, I will go through it, but if we are required to pay anything, then I'm not going to be bothered, the gun still functions reliably.
This happened once with my Glock 17 Gen 5. I had some of that cheap Winchester Forged steel cased 9mm. I was just shooting through a 10 round magazine when after a few rounds the trigger locked up in the forward position. I noticed the slide was back about 1/8" so I pushed the slide forward and it fired the round with the trigger still in the forward position. Before anyone asks yes the firearm was still pointed at the target downrange. This is the only issue I have had with my Glock 17 Gen 5 in approximately 5000 rounds.
easyrider604
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Ok, guess my FNS is working to Perfection then!
